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wazzup wit tis pre-mod stuff, anawhay?


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Post 142

crazyhorse

i am subject to it for the bext few days anyway


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RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Yeah, differential reproduction is the name of the evolutionary game, right Kyaa?

So like Europe is supposed to lose maybe 60 million population within the next generation simply because they're not reproducing like they once did. That's equivalent to the losses they've sustained in major wars.

It's probably similar in Amerika which would probably also be showing a net loss in population if it wasn't for immigration.

Immigrants are apparently perceived both as the problem and the solution since illegal immigrants are increasingly becoming the conservatives' whipping boys while new citizens are apparently being lobbied heavily to opt into the political system thus giving the powers that be a new source of support.

Elsewhere though, and especially among the less white people, reproduction is seen as at best a mixed blessing.

On the one hand you get plenty of bodies to sell in wage slave and indentured work environments and also plenty of cannon fodder but on the otherhand there's more mouths to feed, more potential dissatisfaction with a system that increasingly favors fewer haves at the expense of more havenots.

I'm inclined to think the white revulsion against non-whites probably wins out in the little struggles of conscience, especially if it can be done surreptitiously. We all know after all that population control is a good thing right? And if somebody is going to lose kids it might as well be the brown ones.


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Post 144

crazyhorse

the owg's certainly seem to reccommend contraception particularly in africa and and other 3rd world areas


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Post 145

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i wonder why when the future is brown anyway? my mama used to teach health education once upon a time and she has a thought or two on the matter of fertility and its relation to resources and its relation to exclusivity. will need to speak with her soon and listen carefully.


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Post 146

crazyhorse

sounds like that would be an informative conversation


Native Communism

Post 147

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Well, it probably ain't like coyotes who tend to breed a lot less when resources are scarce although it could be if the resources were available instead of "owned" or "controlled".

Like a lot of people breed more because they need more hands to work for money in the indentured servitude aka slave economy that pervades the globe now. If they didn't work for money but grew their own food and stuff, they could probably get by with less hands because the food is worth more than the money which tends to decline in value over time. I mean how much do you have to work to get a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread right?

But there's probably more to the fertility/resources/exclusivity issues than that so I'm kind of waiting to hear what mama has to say.


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Post 148

crazyhorse

i think white people got a different idea about breeding to others...i remember when a bloke i knew was gettin hooked up with this lass i asked him so are ye gonna hvae kids,,,,the first words outta his mouth without hesitation was do you knlw how much a kid costs...i was kinda shocked but that does seem to be a rather common reaction


Native Communism

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Researcher 185550

It's not all white people. You're tarring us all with the same brush here.

I don't know of the circumstances, but perhaps the reason for the reaction is, people shouldn't surely only be together to have kids, and a kid is a major decision, money notwithstanding.


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Post 150

crazyhorse

i'm not saying all white people are alike m8 but in many cases financial concerns do seem to outweigh humanitarian onessmiley - smiley


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Post 151

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

I sort of doubt money is frequently notwithstanding.

The distinction is pertinent because apparently children are seen by some as a liability that cuts into their lifestyle bigtime. That's true of course but also illustrates a certain peculiar ordering of priorities that maybe merits some consideration as it relates to the issue of nurturing greed not necessarily need. And it also says a lot about some people's goals in life.


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Post 152

crazyhorse

just so you know i'm considered white meself


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Post 153

Researcher 185550

I think it's interesting to talk about the humanitarian concerns of a person who hasn't been born. Unless the humanitarian concern is about the mother/father - whoever wanted the baby.


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Post 154

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about thirty or so years ago, if memory serves, an economist, named Gary Becker, did a very compelling analysis. children as consumer goods. you might wish to look up that analysis to gain a little more insight into the propogation of humanity, one quite different from the genetic or genologic imperative that we often take for granted as being the prime mover ...


Native Communism

Post 155

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

White eh, crazyhorse? I thought you were sioux, something about the name. AAAAYYYYYEEEE!!!

Not really, you've always been straight about that, but I couldn't resist, hah!! You named yourself after a strip emporium right? Hee hee.


Native Communism

Post 156

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Well, until I look up Mr. Becker's thing, that children as consumer goods thing seems kind of intriguing. Is this what your mama was talking about, Kyaa?


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crazyhorse

i met a bloke once that really was named crazyhorse...his dad was sioux but he was half scouser,,,it was really weird cayse he had the strong liverpool accent but the physical traits of his father,,,at least that's what he said his name wassmiley - smiley


Native Communism

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Researcher 185550

There was an interesting ad a while back about that, I forget what it was, possibly a cosmetics product. "Whatever your make- up (genetic and cosmetic) yadayadayada is for you".


Native Communism

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links from amazon to books by Becker, here you can see some titles then you can maybe check stuff out first hand at the local uni or other public library. it'll make you think, for sure.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Becker%2C%20Gary%20Stanley/103-7218519-4687855


Native Communism

Post 160

RAF Wing... Lookee I'm Invisible!!

Thanks Kyaa. I think I need to do some library searches when I get some time between reading assignments.


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