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Post 481

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

I think that can be arranged, but your subconscious will have to make the arrangements.


26 miles of oh dear it still don'r work

Post 482

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

this latest Hadron hiccup reminds me of something of a similar nature, as to the probe sent to Mars,an oversightsmiley - whistleit was programmed with metric and imperial calculations for achieving orbitsmiley - laughwhere it crashed on Mars - oops!


26 miles of oh dear it still don'r work

Post 483

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

The little green men probably thought the smiley - rocket was a gift from their gods. It's probably lying in state in the main square of their capital city. smiley - smiley


26 miles of oh dear it still don'r work

Post 484

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

http://public.web.cern.ch/public/
build it and they will comesmiley - winkeyeat least particles, if the baseball players don't


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16393296
more space junksmiley - laugh


26 miles of oh dear it still don'r work

Post 485

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

I read a book about how the CERN experiments opened a portal with H*ll, which allowed demons to invade Earth. smiley - yikes


26 miles of oh dear it still don'r work

Post 486

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

nah! that's a con-cernsmiley - winkeye

there's more particles in my head undiscovered that are in the universe smiley - biggrin


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Post 487

Jabberwock


What gets me is the vast importance given by telly journalists and the scientists themselves (reportedly) to (I quote from the smiley - prof's reference):

"a possible signature for Higgs particle production, but many events must be analysed together in order to tell if there is a Higgs signal."


You can add as many possibilities as you like to this, keeping its truth, e.g. 'the possibility that it is a possible...'

or " the possibility that there is a possibility of this being a possible signature' etc. which of course implies that there is a possibility that this is possibly NOT a possible...'

And after that, more analysis is definitely needed before the possible possibility can be etc etc etc smiley - zzz






26 miles of oh dear it still don't work

Post 488

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

and if they FIND the possible of the possibility, they'll get an award and world acclaim. The mathematicians will get another set of formulae to work with and 99.99r of the world won't smiley - batan eyelid.
And someone will of course HAVE to mention Einstein smiley - biggrin


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Post 489

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

You have a better chance of checking millions of sailing ships and finding a bosun whose name happens to be Higgs. smiley - winkeye


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Post 490

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

The book that I referred to is called "Hell's Bells" in the U.K., and "The Infernals" in the U.S. Mrs. Abernathy is the Earth version of Baal. When the portal from Hell opens the first time, she leads the other demons into the home town of a boy named Samuel Johnson (FWIW, his dog is named Boswell). Then the boy befriends a demon who drives a car back through the portal, closing it. "The Infernals" is the sequel. It tells what happens when CERN is brought back up after technical difficulties. Mrs. Abernathy doesn't have the juice to open the portal for all the demons, but she can and does bring Samuel Johnson into Hell so she can take her revenge on him. This backfires, though, because she *also* accidentally brings two policemen, four devious dwarves, and an ice cream wagon along with Johnson.

I like the thought of being able to gewt good ice cream in Hell, thanks to CERN.


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 491

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=biggest-map-yet-of-universes
we know of matter and anti matter, plus dark matter.
But We Yorkshire folk, well! mesmiley - laughanyway, know of anothersmiley - smiley
it's called "itdoesnt matter"
because whatever is discovered, the universe will carry on it's own way regardlesssmiley - biggrin

I watched this on tv - Higgs boson
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mgxf
it should be called the scarlet pimpernel particle, they seek it here, they seek it there smiley - biggrin


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 492

Jabberwock



smiley - laughsmiley - oksmiley - ok


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Post 493

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

I'm pretty sure --well, sort of sure, or almost sort of sure -- that Itdoesnt Matter will be the next important class of SITU [stuff in the universe], and you will become famous for having discovered it, prof. smiley - smiley


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Post 494

ITIWBS

On dark matter, though I can think of a few other things it might be, I think its just Hawkings' primordial black holes, black holes of sub-stellar mass formed by the compressional forces of the big bang, rather than the gravitational collapse process that comes up under the Schwartzschild model.

There is some significant evidence for this in the gamma ray bursters phenomenon.

There are two major classes of gamma ray bursters, 3 second bursters, that occur out in the galactic halo regions where the dark matter is supposed to be, and gamma ray bursters that persist on the close order of an hour or so, thought to be a consequence of collapse of a massive star into a black hole under the Schwartzschild model & Kerrs' reformulation of it.

The first type of gamma ray burster may actually be a decaying primordial black hole.

Decay times for primodial black holes depend very sensitively on their mass equivalency, so that primordial black holes of a given size tend to decay simultaneously and primordial black holes decaying at about the same time should have about the same energy.

The energy of decay of primordial black holes increases over cosmological time.

The decay process should come in two parts; first a rapidly escalating emission of electromagnetic radiation (light) from comparatively long wavelengths and low frequencies to the gamma ray maximum; and thereafter, the decay signature should be simply a highly conventional thermodynamic decay signature.

The second part, decay signature after the gamma ray maximum, has been documented.

The first part requires a record of activity in the region of the gamma ray burst in lower frequencies and before the gamma ray maximum.

An observation strategy for getting this is to use gamma ray burst detectors in tandem with major space telescopes like Hubble, Spitzer or Chandra.

If a gamma ray burst is observed in the region under observation by the major space telescope, then one can examine the record of the major space telescope for tell-tales of the preliminary part of the decay process before the gamma ray maximum.

Gamma ray bursters are so bright that they temporarily outshine all the other self luminous objects in the universe taken together.

They are also very common, several are reported every day.

...if you spend much time watching the night sky, there's a real possibility you may have seen one (or more)... ...that brief, medium magnitude, star-like object that flared and faded in only three seconds, may not have been your imagination after all...

Meanwhile, on dark matter, returning to the original formulation on it, 'MACHOs', massive compact halo objects, I really don't know of anything that can much better fill the bill than Hawkings' primordial black holes.




...A 'Dark Energy' Brainstorm...




'Dark energy' may be something almost purely electrostatic, originating in stellar wind phenomena.

The stellar wind of a reasonably energetic star, the sun, for example is rich in quantum electrons and quantum protons.

With the same specific impulse acting on them, the quantum electrons will travel a little over 1800 times as fast as the quantum protons.

Eventually, this will result in the formation of a negatively charged halo around most any self luminous object, a galaxy, for example.

The quantum protons tend to anchor this to its source.

The quantum electrons exert an outward repulsive force acting against that being generated by other similar objects.




I can think of a couple of other models for dark energy, one of which I consider stronger than this one, but I think that this one is probably a contributing process.


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 495

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

A dark chocolate bar also contains some dark energy, and is fun to eat. smiley - drool


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 496

ITIWBS

If you like dark chocolate, dark chocolate laced with caramelized whey cheese crunchies can be even better, though people tasting caramelized whey cheese neat for the first time usually react the way little boys do the first time they taste sen-sen, even though little girls go bananas for the stuff. (With sen-sen, it has to do with estrogenic profactors the little girls need and little boys don't, though adult males often use it for a stress reliever.)


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 497

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

with the search for various "matter"s and the higgs bosomsmiley - smiley

will "man" live long enough to find/prove etc (without mathematics)this ?

subspace!
A space that is wholly contained in another space, or whose points or elements are all in another space.
(in science fiction) A hypothetical space-time continuum used for communication at a speed faster than that of light.

because everything that we have in "our" universe, could have come from here ? with the "big bang"


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 498

Jabberwock


>with the search for various "matter"s and the higgs bosom <

Your obsessions are showing, Prof.


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Post 499

Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

smiley - winkeyeno one HAS ever truly answered where I'm fromsmiley - smiley

egg/sperm yes, but true existence no! smiley - smileymy opinion is, that there was STILL something before the "big bang", as in space etc, even NOTHING is somethingsmiley - smiley


Cern runs rings round yah!

Post 500

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

"If you like dark chocolate, dark chocolate laced with caramelized whey cheese crunchies can be even better"

I didn't know such things existed. It seems simpler to enjoy the chocolate by itself, and have some cheese separately. Egg yolks and some cheeses (feta, gouda, etc.) contain healthy amounts of Vitamin K2, which is extremely good for the heart. Even yogurt has a little of it. The Japanese have a fermented soy product that has lots of K2, but there doesn't seem to be a proven need for so much of the vitamin in one dose. Eating a variety of foods seems like the best route to health.


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