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Post 8961

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

It is my understanding we got syphilis from the south americans in exchange for measles smiley - erm

However, neither party was too happy about this deal in the long run. The europeans were not used to syphilis and the south americans not to measles - and in years after that hundreds of thousands succumbed to these diseases smiley - erm

smiley - pirate


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Post 8962

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

Smallpox killed at least a couple dozen people in the Americas as well--or ill.


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Post 8963

Taff Agent of kaos

syphilis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A3826163

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Post 8964

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

Interesting!

Here's a theory: The vikings infected native americans who in turn infected columbus' sailors with a mutated variant

No? Could make a good story anyway

smiley - pirate


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Post 8965

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

Isn't the death rate from smallpox greater than that from syphilis?
Not that this has anything to do with Batty's fan club. smiley - erm


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Post 8966

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

i guess it was back in the olden days but these days smallpox have been wiped out almost completely, haven't they?

smiley - pirate


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Post 8967

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

The last case of smallpox was recorded some years ago.


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Post 8968

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

But it seems syphilis is getting a revival, like other sexual transmitted diseases. People are no longer afraid of aids, it seems

smiley - pirate


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Post 8969

Taff Agent of kaos

bring back traditional cures for STDs that will put back the fear

the umbarellasmiley - yikes

smiley - bat


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Post 8970

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

I thought AIDS was technically an STD. No?


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Post 8971

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

I know you can get it without the fun. Many bleeders did

smiley - pirate


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Post 8972

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

Most of that was early in the game, before there were tests for the virus. smiley - sadface


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Post 8973

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

Actually a lot of deaths could have been prevented had the authorities acted in time - but since it was believed that the disease only infected gay people nobody was in any hurry

smiley - pirate


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Post 8974

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

We lost some great people to it. Arthur Ashe's death was especially poignant. smiley - sadface


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Post 8975

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

I lost a dear friend and coworker to this dreadful disease

smiley - pirate


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Post 8976

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

There are a few African countries where a quarter or more of the population is HIV-positive. A while back, someone was predicting that when HIV hits India, where at least 30% of the population has latent tuberculosis, death rates would skyrocket. That doesn't seem to have happened yet. Maybe it won't be as dramatic as it is expected to be.


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Post 8977

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

We can only hope smiley - erm

smiley - pirate


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Post 8978

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

Some people are exposed to HIV but don't catch it. There are some others that test positive for it, but never go on to full-blown AIDS. This speaks to great variability in people's immune systems. Whatever else this disease does, causing us to go extinct is not likely.

Historically, there were people who caught smallpox and survived. There were people who got plague and survived. Even in the Americas, where upwards of 90% of the indigenous peoples died in the various waves of illness that the Europeans brought over with them, there were still some who survived and produced descendants. Montezuma's descendants are still very much with us. Many millions of people in South America have native Americans as ancestors.


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Post 8979

Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~

And we can all thank Darwin for this smiley - ok

smiley - pirate


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Post 8980

paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant

We can thank him for pointing it out, though I expect someone else would have done it if he hadn't. smiley - winkeye


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