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Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
Pink Paisley Started conversation Aug 12, 2014
The world is in a mess with human suffering all over the place at the hands of the powerful and major nations are willing to dive in and protect the innocent but only where there is a strategic or economic interest.
So is it time that the UN had a properly funded, multinational and independent military briefed to intervene and support the people of nations that few people outside the areas of conflict cares about?
It could also have a co-ordinated role in disaster relief worldwide, rather than have governments jostling for position in doing just enough to be seen to be doing something / more than their political rivals.
Syria, Nigeria, Palestine, South Sudan, etc.
PP.
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Aug 12, 2014
Would the wealthy nations pay their United Nations dues if the U.N. supported action in a state that the wealthy nations disapproved of?
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SiliconDioxide Posted Aug 13, 2014
If they had all those guns then the money might be more forthcoming.
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
Orcus Posted Aug 13, 2014
Given that the UN is about as uncorrupt as FIFA I would be very very wary about giving it guns.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Aug 13, 2014
The idea of the UN having a lot of guns makes me afraid, very afraid . On the other hand, given that they can only get money from dues-paying nations, I doubt that the guns they could afford would be up to date or state of the art.
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Superfrenchie Posted Aug 13, 2014
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Aug 14, 2014
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" Posted Aug 14, 2014
"So is it time that the UN had a properly funded, multinational and independent military briefed to intervene and support the people of nations that few people outside the areas of conflict cares about?"
That's a good question and I don't have an answer for it. BUT, I think our most immediate concerns could be addressed by revising the Security Council's veto rules. Specifically by increasing the size of the "veto"-voting nations to at least eight, and requiring at least two veto votes (preferably three) to actually veto anything.
But, alas, I have no say in these matters.
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swl Posted Aug 14, 2014
Can't see the US continuing to fund the UN (22%) if they can be over-ruled and forced into something they don't want.
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" Posted Aug 14, 2014
Assuming Germany and/or Japan and/or India are the ones added to the list, America could likely form a voting bloc. Hence, I suspect, why Russia and China are so heavily opposed to the idea.
(But it would be shrewd and pragmatic and undiplomatic of me to point this out. So I'm just going to wiggle my eyebrows suggestively.)
Ironically, in order to reform the Security Council, you effectively need unanimous approval from the Security Council. And that's not likely to happen, so the argument is pretty academic.
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bobstafford Posted Aug 14, 2014
The UN is controlled by a committee a committee controllling an army!
Remember the old saying a camel is a horse designed by a committee. All the ingredients for a massive cock up!
Limited power limited scope for error.
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" Posted Aug 14, 2014
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Aug 14, 2014
All of these are good points.
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SiliconDioxide Posted Aug 14, 2014
Perhaps FIFA should be in charge of arranging football tournaments in war zones and the UN could field a team.
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Orcus Posted Aug 14, 2014
The IOC could be the ultimate arbiter
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SiliconDioxide Posted Aug 15, 2014
Ah, the posthumous gold medals. With luck the involvement of the IOC would leave huge areas of unused war-zone facilities behind in those countries that it visited.
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Dr Anthea - ah who needs to learn things... just google it! Posted Aug 15, 2014
full of air force bases with world war 2076 emblazoned on the side next to some lovely corporate sponsorship
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Aug 15, 2014
Is it time for the UN to have a large, independent armed relief force / army?
warner - a new era of cooperation Posted Aug 23, 2014
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2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... Posted Aug 24, 2014
I think the world need fewer guns, and armys, not more... If anything over the past few decades, any form of intivention just seems to make matters worse, further down the l line, if not, necessarily, directly at the point/time of conflict. I can't imagine the UN would be any better judge of when, where, and why to intervene in other nations strife and problems, than anyone else... too many bad judgement calls, which can only I guess be even badder when its a comette taking the bad descisions...
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- 1: Pink Paisley (Aug 12, 2014)
- 2: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Aug 12, 2014)
- 3: SiliconDioxide (Aug 13, 2014)
- 4: Orcus (Aug 13, 2014)
- 5: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Aug 13, 2014)
- 6: Superfrenchie (Aug 13, 2014)
- 7: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Aug 14, 2014)
- 8: Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" (Aug 14, 2014)
- 9: swl (Aug 14, 2014)
- 10: Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" (Aug 14, 2014)
- 11: bobstafford (Aug 14, 2014)
- 12: Mr. X ---> "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!" (Aug 14, 2014)
- 13: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Aug 14, 2014)
- 14: SiliconDioxide (Aug 14, 2014)
- 15: Orcus (Aug 14, 2014)
- 16: SiliconDioxide (Aug 15, 2014)
- 17: Dr Anthea - ah who needs to learn things... just google it! (Aug 15, 2014)
- 18: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Aug 15, 2014)
- 19: warner - a new era of cooperation (Aug 23, 2014)
- 20: 2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side... (Aug 24, 2014)
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