h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Good point, Nbb. Taken on board.

That video was serious wasn't it?

I'm still not sure...

tbh I'm still not myself - but either almost everyone in the comments is doing excellent irony (not a common thing in Youttube comments), and all comments are held for the uploader to confirm them - i didn't realise you could do that


To stick to a gun related complaint with it

They say they want troops back from the wars - but either they trust the troops not to oppress them for the government, in which case they don't all need their own guns, or they fear the troops would, in which case surely they'd want them to stay out the country?

And it's already been said in the thread before that a militia, with or without big clips would do no better against a full army

I must say it's bursting out of me to attack all the other problems with it, but I'll try to hold it in

Can we acquire a stupid, stereotypical gun-nut southern, republican person for the thread, it would cheer up proceedings

For those with any lingering doubts about the authenticity
of the video clzoomer linked us to, may I suggest you click
on the profile of the guy who uploaded it and see what else
he has been up to.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheHealthRanger?feature=watch




~jwf~

When you an error is pointed out, and you double down by citing something as useless as internet search results, it's not Hoo being unreasonable.

I closed that video after about 30 seconds. I could have switched it off even sooner as all I needed to see was the infowars tag in the corner. Alex Jones is the A Number One, King of the Hill conspiracy nutter in the country.

Oh, a 'big-picture' guy.

"For the last time: No one suggested that the bullet was made of kevlar - that, my friend, was yours (and no one else's) assertion"

From post 492, tucuxii: "Sky marshall use kevlar rounds".

From post 511, Two Bit: "What is a kevlar bullet? "

Once again: can you describe any interpretation of either of the above comments which does NOT involve a bullet made of kevlar?

" I could show you the relevant sites I found within 30 seconds of entering 'kevlar bullet'"

You "could", but significantly, despite being asked to do so directly, I note you don't. You don't, because you know those results are irrelevant. That they don't deal with a kevlar bullet. They deal with whether kevlar will stop a bullet - a bullet made of lead, or brass.

Once again, since you didn't seem to understand last time - I'm NOT INTERESTED in the irrelevant results. Show me a company that manufactures a kevlar bullet. Show me where one can be bought, or which law enforcement agency or armed force uses one. Should be simple enough for someone of your advanced Googling skills.

"That statement was cryptic?"

No, dumbass, calling it cryptic was something doctors call "sarcasm". The implication being that it was a perfectly clear statement that was only cryptic to you.

Oh dear.

What's it to be, fisticuffs or pisstools at dawn?

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was pisstools a typo

If this is going run,could you take the aguement some else maybe, please and let everyone get on wth the topic being discussed

I don't think I'll bother - I think it's been adequately demonstrated that RE's sarcastic abuse directed at Two Bit ("I'm not sure what that says about your investigative skills") was based on defective comprehension of simple English. I consider the matter closed.

"please and let everyone get on wth the topic being discussed"

Just one hint for Hoo - Noun modifiers.

According to Hoo....

A hat stand must be a stand made of hats.
A soup spoon must be a spoon made of soup.
A ticket office must be an office made of tickets.
Etc, etc.

"Teflon rounds would be more likely to over penetrate or punch holes through the aircraft skin."

That may be the case, but the ammunition sky marshals use are frilled with shot suspended in a teflon gel and do not pass through amn aircrafts skin or the body of the person targetted.

Re Democide

It is a bit worrying that people so ill informed they don't know that Demos actually means the people and so crazy they think there is a government plot to "grope your genitals" are demanding the sort of weaponry necessary to take on the US military.

I will repeat it is also extremely insulting to the men and women of the US miltary as their is an inherent assumption they would willing take part in acts of genocide against their own people.

Furthermore it is worth noting that one of the tools the Nazis, Stalin and Mao used to control and manipulate their populations was just the sort of twisted propoganda being used in the "Democide" link.

The argument seems to be becoming a bit heated, I'm gonna wander off and come back tomorrow to see if the thread is continuing as it was

And yes Tuc, you're right about everything in your post

Actually, the "grope your genitals" point in that silly video (yes, I broke down and watched it anyway. Dear BoB, the repetition was annoying) is something I'd like very much to be done away with. The TSA's prime directive is its continuance. The abuses their personnel have committed against citizens is often inexcusable. And they are NOT making anyone safer. The two things that have actually made flying safer post 9-11 is locking the cockpit doors, and the clear demonstration that passengers will not sit idly by as high jackers take over a plane. Intrusively frisking frightened toddlers in wheelchairs is absolutely out of bounds. Putting a breast feeding mother in a "penalty box" so long she misses her flight because she insisted that her pre-pumped breast milk not be ran through an X-ray is inexcusable. Does anyone know how many terrorists the TSA have discovered so far? None. Not a one. Oh, but they sure have caught a lot of copyright infringers.

But, no, I don't see it as a conspiracy. It's more of a huge multi billion dollar boondoggle of paranoid government overreach and incompetence.

I'm sorry, I really can't let this go.

I note you are still posting here but are either unwilling or unable to supply a single one of the millions of links you claimed to find dealing with the concept of the kevlar bullet.

"Just one hint for Hoo - Noun modifiers"

Why so coy? Simply explain yourself, clearly. What, precisely, do you believe is meant by the phrase "kevlar bullet", if not a bullet made from kevlar? (Note: I have asked you this question several times before. Do you actually know the answer?)

Do you, perhaps, mean a bullet specifically designed to *penetrate* kevlar (the "cop killer" bullet vilified in the press)? Oh, no, hang on, you can't mean that, because the context was specifically that of a LESS than normally penetrative bullet. OK, maybe, do you imagine "kevlar bullet" means "a bullet that won't go through kevlar"? This seems an extremely strange formulation, since those familiar with normal pistol ammunition call that kind of bullet a "bullet", with no need for any modifier. So you can't think that, either...

You can see how I'm confused at your very specific and personal interpretation of the phrase "kevlar bullet". You hint that you think the word "kevlar" was being used as a noun modifier for "bullet", but bizarrely don't describe how it modifies it, beyond disparaging the idea that it might refer to material of construction - the interpretation every single other person who read that post chose. I really am fascinated to know what you think "kevlar bullet" means. Do tell.



"the ammunition sky marshals use are frilled with shot suspended in a teflon gel "

Can you corroborate that? http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-07-air-marshals_x.htm

Specifically: "Air marshals carry automatic .357 SIG Sauer pistols with a 12-round cartridge. The bullets are hollow-point and expand on entering a body. "It's one of the most high-powered rounds you can put in a weapon," the second air marshal said"

Also: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jun/13/20060613-123248-2105r/?page=all

Specifically: "Federal Air Marshal Service Director Dana Brown is reviewing the agency’s use of a .357-caliber handgun and Speer Gold Dot .357 SIG round, nonfrangible ammunition, said FAMS spokesman Conan Bruce. Mr. Bruce said air marshals used to use frangible ammunition but switched weapons and ammunition after researching testing by outside groups."

Ambles off as well, still 500 plus posts was was a remarkable innings,and a consistant level of quality postings and this thread has given me plenty to be going on with

Can't be arsed to wade through point scoring squabbles between a couple of researchers and dont like the change in tone and kind of spissed off it is back to same old, same old

"I'm sorry, I really can't let this go."