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Text speak. Is it killing the art of conversation
Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Sep 28, 2012
Correlation does not imply causation.
I was a sullen teenacher before the rise of social media and the ubiquity of mobile phones and I certainly gave monosyllabic answers and spoke in short sentences.
I think the notion that teenachers were generally politer and more communicative before Twitter et al is a bit rose tinted.
Text speak. Is it killing the art of conversation
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Sep 28, 2012
You have a point, Mr. Dreadful.
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Peanut Posted Sep 28, 2012
I misread ,teacher
goes away now, I don't text, I don't have a phone
and my spelling is shite
I can talk till the cows come home at the bus stop mind
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quotes Posted Sep 28, 2012
I think the art of conversation has been altered, rather than killed, by the advent of texting. My eldest often sits and holds conversations by text with several friends simultaneously. That wouldn't have happened when I was a nipper. What's more, spellcheck has apparently improved her spelling, by showing her where she goes wrong. Perhaps she uses the spoken word less, but I don't think her conversational ability is suffering, it's very mature in fact.
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Nosebagbadger {Ace} Posted Sep 28, 2012
When i saw "i was a sullen teenager before the rise of social media" I for some reason expected to either see a comment saying you were still a sullen teenager or that social media had been obliterated
I get more annoyed the other way - if i ever text my mother a question, i will always get one word answers, the same happens even with emails - she can't even use txt spk because she doesn't have the words to do so
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pedro Posted Sep 28, 2012
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quotes.
Folk are always going on about how the youth of today are plummeting new depths. We'd've gone from quantum physics 100 years ago to rubbing sticks together for fire if that really was the case. One thing I've personally noticed is that I'm much more prone to abbreviate things on my touchscreen phone.
Its deffo more hassle to type than with an old-fashioned (lol!) phone keypad.
Text speak. Is it killing the art of conversation
pedro Posted Sep 28, 2012
And another thing, text abbreviations don't mean in spoken language what they do in textspeak. 'lol' can mean 'this is a joke', 'this is funny', 'this is not serious, but I've only used 26 characters to reply and you might not see the humour because of this' and so on.
I think textspeak can be wonderfully informative and witty due to its brevity. Sometimes texting younger people is much more fun for me than texting folk my own age (hurtling aimlessly towards middle age). I think OMG & WTF are fabulous acronyms, and there's probably several others than don't come to mind right now.
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Rudest Elf Posted Sep 29, 2012
"WTF is a great example of an abbreviation taking much longer to say than the phrase it replaces "
That's certainly true of Spanish: Uve doble té efé
By the way, WTF, OMG, IMO, etc are initialisms, not acronyms - acronyms are pronounced as words.
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vegiman:-) Posted Sep 29, 2012
I have read all your posts and taken on board that we are in a new age.
A person I once knew was always saying, "If things don't change, they stay the same"
Perhaps that is what I like about this site - people do talk - sometimes a load of nonsense - sometimes more serious matters but they do talk.
They use both methods of communicating but sometimes, I feel I need to be a mindreader to know what is being said. Come on, there must be times when you read something like IDK and wonder WTF it means. (Thanks for that one Debs) To embarrassed to ask all the time what they mean and ignore them.
Or is it just me
vegiman
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Icy North Posted Sep 29, 2012
You're assuming I don't pronounce them as words, RF
I refer the right honourable gentleman to A86878796.
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vegiman:-) Posted Sep 29, 2012
I also meant to say, there are always those who fight against change. It is human nature to resist their orderly lives being upturned. There are those who will fight tooth and nail to push through a new regime.
I am sure the battle will go on long after I am gone. Needless to say,
"If things don't change, they stay the same"
Keep moving forward, even if us OFs get left stuck in the mud
vegiman
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vegiman:-) Posted Sep 29, 2012
Thanks for that Icy - it goes to show that even text speak has a place in the world of the academically minded.
You most likely, know more than me on the subject but me still.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Sep 29, 2012
I sometimes get initialisms mixed up. When I first saw "EMO," I thought it was a badly spelled version of "IMO." Turns out the two have nothing to do with each other.
"TMI" threw me for a loop the first few times I saw it. I couldn't figure out what Three Mile Island had to do with the conversations I was involved in. Finally,someone mentioned that it stood for "Too much information." As a former reference librarian who has sometimes been stumped in finding answers for people, you can *never* have too much information. But many people don't seem to understand how desperate one can get when the desired information refuses to appear.
Likewise with "ATM." In my country, an "ATM" is an automatic teller machine, a gadget that I feed my ATM card into, type in my PIN [perosnal information number], and proceed to get cash from. Gradually I began to realise that the people I was conversing with meant "At the moment." Well, at any given moment I might need more cash.
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Deb Posted Sep 29, 2012
Vegiman: <<...and wonder WTF it means. (Thanks for that one Debs)>> I think you'll find the credit should go to pedro in the post before mine.
In another thread someone (I think it may have been swl) used TLDR (after an opening post so long it should have gone into the edited guide). I had to google it. Too Long, Didn't Read. Very succinct!
It's strange that I don't find these initialisms/acronyms/whatevers annoying in conversations on here, but I would in an email or letter. I wonder why that is?
Deb
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vegiman:-) Posted Sep 29, 2012
everyone
but my even more.
Can't wait to get back to a sane converstion where they speak like wot I duss.
Someone mentioned that texting taught kids of today how to spell. That is good. My phone does not allow very much text speak but there again it does belong in the history museum.
BTW: (one I do use) Thanks ~jwf~
vegiman
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AE Hill, Mabin-OGion Character of inauspicious repute Posted Sep 30, 2012
If one considers oneself mature,
that in and of itself does not translate to boring.
Usually practice makes perfect [well much better].
Mature does mean you have had time to practice.
Add to that fact that people often develop in punctuated steps [theory].
If people practice at the *right* time in their development,
the results can be auspicious.
During our development we normally become independent.
It is also common to overdue a good thing.
In time, people normally return to some moderate position.
Never-the-less, things do change through the generations.
As a good example, I can barely understand Shakespeare.
But then again, I do not practice much.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Sep 30, 2012
I wish I could say Shakespeare gets easier,
but it's hard to read at any age no matter
how much reading experience one has.
The only way to really understand most of it,
the best bits anyway, is to listen to it.
Films, stage, recordings.
Reading along with a recording is often a good
way to learn the flow of it (poetically speaking)
just so long as they haven't edited too much.
~jwf~
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- 21: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Sep 28, 2012)
- 22: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Sep 28, 2012)
- 23: Peanut (Sep 28, 2012)
- 24: quotes (Sep 28, 2012)
- 25: Nosebagbadger {Ace} (Sep 28, 2012)
- 26: pedro (Sep 28, 2012)
- 27: pedro (Sep 28, 2012)
- 28: Deb (Sep 29, 2012)
- 29: Rudest Elf (Sep 29, 2012)
- 30: vegiman:-) (Sep 29, 2012)
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- 34: vegiman:-) (Sep 29, 2012)
- 35: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Sep 29, 2012)
- 36: Deb (Sep 29, 2012)
- 37: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Sep 29, 2012)
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- 39: AE Hill, Mabin-OGion Character of inauspicious repute (Sep 30, 2012)
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