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HonestIago Posted Jan 16, 2012
I wonder if the signifance of St Barts hospital is just to create a sort-of pun: roof of Barts fall = Reichenbach Falls.
I'm inclined to believe Watson was drugged somehow (probably by the cyclist) using the drug from last week - Watson saw what he expected to see - and it was Moriaty's body dropped from the roof.
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Just Bob aka Robert Thompson, plugging my film blog cinemainferno-blog.blogspot.co.uk Posted Jan 16, 2012
I'm still not sure Watson *did* take the body's pulse. Someone did, but it seemed to me that Watson was kept away by the crowd.
Still, I suppose that's irrelevant if the corpse was a ringer, as my current theory stands.
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U14993989 Posted Jan 16, 2012
They did a body swap trick in the first episode ("A Scandal in Belgravia") - so it's not without precedence.
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Mu Beta Posted Jan 16, 2012
The 'stopping the pulse' trick was, I believe, part of one of the Sherlock books: it was certainly known about in Victorian times. And, of course, it was espoused in the (first) Guy Ritchie film. Which, being in the present day, you'd have expected Freeman and Cumberbatch to have seen...
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Odo Posted Jan 16, 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16573066
So there will be a third series. At least this time the cliff hanger explanation should be stronger that at the swimming pool at the start of this series.
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Mistadrong, (Count vonCount.)the last Gog standing Posted Jan 16, 2012
Spoiler alert!
Well that's the end of that, Sherlock jumps off the building and
splats on the floor. Watson goes into therapy and we end up at the graveside.
End of story....
but hang about, why there's Sherlock lurking in the background.
Is he a ghost or was it all a dream sequence after all?
Methinks it's shades of golden goose as far as the BBC is concerned.
Not that I'm complaining though since the whole thing has been brilliant.
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fords - number 1 all over heaven Posted Jan 16, 2012
That was one helluva ending; I was almost convinced Sherlock really was a goner The writing just gets better and better so I can't wait for series 3!
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U14993989 Posted Jan 16, 2012
"That was one helluva ending; I was almost convinced Sherlock really was a goner The writing just gets better and better so I can't wait for series 3!"
In series three I hear he will get one of those boob implants and will change his/her name to Shirley.
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Just Bob aka Robert Thompson, plugging my film blog cinemainferno-blog.blogspot.co.uk Posted Jan 16, 2012
I think comics have ruined me for things like this. In comics, nobody ever dies permanently. Even the most definitive ending in which the character is blown into atoms, the atoms scattered across the universe, the genome data banks scoured, etc. will only last as long as they feel like leaving the character dead.
It leaves you with a blasé attitude to character death. Even if it seems certain they are dead, you can always say "If the writers want him to, he'll be back under some pretext. If we're lucky, it'll even be quite a clever pretext." When you look at it like that, the series can very well terminate while the character is still alive, so death doesn't actually mean anything in the long run...
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Jan 16, 2012
They had to make 2 Morse Christmas specials after he'd died - though again the author wanted him dead, and thus far Colin Dexter has resisted re-inventing him - a young Morse series was postulated I believe.
I think th TV Mycroft is far superior to the film one, though logically Stephen Fry would be the man for the role. Couldn't help noticing in the bare foor shot of him at the end he does have very large feet - maybe he is a hobbit ?
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U14993989 Posted Jan 16, 2012
I read somewhere that Arthur Conan Doyle originally killed off the character because he wanted to start writing proper literary stuff.
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Odo Posted Jan 16, 2012
He wanted to spend more time writing historical fiction and felt that Holmes was getting in the way of him being able to concentrate on that.
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Jan 16, 2012
"Methinks it's shades of golden goose as far as the BBC is concerned."
I take it you're unfamiliar with the pressure campaign after Conan Doyle killed off Holmes by having him fall from Reichenbach Falls?
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McKay The Disorganised Posted Jan 17, 2012
I think the real test for the series will be series 4 - which will be entirely written - unless they intend to do the house of silk.
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Mistadrong, (Count vonCount.)the last Gog standing Posted Jan 17, 2012
The Guardian message boards were pretty much taken up with the ending.
Concensus seems to be divided between Moriarty wearing a Sherlock mask
so Holmes threw him off, and a garbage truck conveniently parked underneath. Had to be open topped of course and full of soft rubbish.
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