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Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 321

Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee

Translation:

'Talks the hind legs off a donkey' = 'Reads someting and presents an argument based on it.'


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 322

Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee

Christopher:

>>Or their children's.

Tut tut.

I *hope* it's not implied that I'm unconcerned about that.


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 323

Christopher

Not at all, just a mention that single parents with no income have not only the benefits of paid-for social housing, but the guarantee they can bring their children up in soulless hellholes where any shred of individual worth is sucked out of them by the privation of their circumstances.

Having gone from one of the better public schools in the Home Counties to the depravity of a London overspill estate in a matter of weeks, I know whereof I speak, innit.


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 324

Taff Agent of kaos

<< just a mention that single parents with no income have not only the benefits of paid-for social housing, but the guarantee they can bring their children up in soulless hellholes where any shred of individual worth is sucked out of them by the privation of their circumstances.>>

and there is the target audience and contestants for the jeremy kyle show

smiley - bat


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 325

swl

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Ah, I see you've been to Glasgow then? smiley - winkeye

Actually, there's your answer to the OP. Make all the necessary cuts in Central Scotland. Voters there will return Labour MPs no matter what, so no harm done.

A Glaswegian friend of mine recently said to me "In Glasgow you went to a shit school where you learned nothing but how to fight and how to take drugs. You left school and got an apprenticeship that was cut off after a year, leaving you on the dole. You live in a shit house with damp running down the walls. For 50 years you've had a Labour council and a Labour MP. But you vote Labour anyway, because it's what you do."

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r166/swl_album/Monkey.jpg


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 326

Ancient Brit

That's better swl. Now you are entering into the spirit of the thread. smiley - ok


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 327

nortirascal

Hear, hear smiley - applause I was wondering when this thread may become entertaining smiley - winkeye


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 328

Taff Agent of kaos

thats why the tories are in favour of welsh and scotish devolution, they are both traditional labour heartlands and with them out of the equation labour would be trapped in the mainly urban constituancies

smiley - bat


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 329

swl

No they aren't. The Tory's full name is The Conservative and Unionist Party. They support the Union because that's part of their small 'c' conservatism. Cameron is on record as saying he doesn't want to go down in history as the leader of the conservatives who presided over the break-up of the Union.

The Conservatives want the Union
Labour want the Union (they're screwed without it)
The LibDems want the Union (actually, they just want full amalgamation into the EU)

In fact, given all the guff about Scots being such a drain on English resources, it's rather surprising that all the main parties are against breaking up the Union.

Could it be that talk of Scotland being a drain is nonsense? Perhaps reading the McCrone report would help (a report commissioned by the UK Government in 1975 and then suppressed)

"It must be concluded therefore that large revenues and balance of payments gains would indeed accrue to a Scottish Government in the event of independence provided that steps were taken either by carried interest or by taxation to secure the Government ‘take’. Undoubtedly this would banish any anxieties the Government might have had about its budgetary position or its balance of payments. The country would tend to be in chronic surplus to a quite embarrassing degree and its currency would become the hardest in Europe, with the exception perhaps of the Norwegian kroner. Just as deposed monarchs and African leaders have in the past used the Swiss franc as a haven of security, so now would the Scottish pound be seen as a good hedge against inflation and devaluation and the Scottish banks could expect to find themselves inundated with a speculative inflow of foreign funds."

http://www.oilofscotland.org/mccronereport.pdf


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 330

Taff Agent of kaos

dave was hinting at full devolution for wales for plaid cymru suuport if it was tight

smiley - bat


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 331

KB

"Full devolution"? Would that be the same as complete independence? It's hard to see how PC would be in a position to offer any support to him then. smiley - erm


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 332

Ancient Brit

Devolution and Proportional Representation are a minor issue.
Unless someone takes their finger out the whole bl**dy nation will go bottoms up and we shall be classed along with the failing European States.


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 333

swl

Sorry, I thought you just asked someone to take their finger out of your upturned bottom.


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 334

Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee

smiley - ta for the clarification, Christopher.

Underlines the point that even if we assumed that young women were shagging their way into council houses (they're not. it's a myth. it doesn't work like that), punitive solutions could never be the answer. They wouldn't be the ones to suffer.


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 335

Ancient Brit

You seem to show a measure of understanding swl. I believe we've been here before.
Nick and Dave are quite close to taking control, the markets don't seem to be too upset for the time being. My old fashioned livelihood would seem to be secure. As old age takes hold the requirements of my wife and I on the 'frontline services' may overtake our contribution, but for the time being we are keeping our end up knowing full well that family and friends are solidly behind us.
Just have a slight pain in the ass now an again. smiley - cheers


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 336

Taff Agent of kaos


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you can get cream for that these dayssmiley - disco

smiley - bat


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 337

Ancient Brit

Taff - The 'Welcome' from the hilltops was received around 3.30 pm. Shouldn't you be in bed ?



Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 338

Taff Agent of kaos

been in bed

get the kids from school

when mum comes in go back to bed

smiley - bat


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 339

Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee

But who'll look after the children while you're both in bed? smiley - run


Where should public spending cuts fall? (UK centric)

Post 340

Taff Agent of kaos

shes home now to look after kids, i do to bed, i get up, kids go to bed, i go to work, she goes to bed, she gets up, i come home, she takes kids to school, i go to bed, she goes to work, i get up, i collect kids from school, she comes home, i go to bed

repeat untill finished

smiley - bat


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