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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Jan 24, 2005
That explains a lot! South Park is appalling rubbish. As can be seen from Team America wossname, they're die-hard pro-Neocon Republicans as well.
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jan 24, 2005
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Jan 24, 2005
Akshully....all though they apepared in ...Columbine, the animation was made by one of Michael Moore's own interns.
I think that the intention of stuff like portraying MM as a suicide bomber was irony...that thing that the Americans aren't meant to get but the British are.
It can be a dangerous strategy in that it can go over the heads of a literal-minded audience. This was a problem with Till Death Us Do Part: Some people took Alf Garnet's ludicrous bigotry seriously and regarded him as 'the voice of the ordinary British workin man'...daring to say what others wouldn't. A working class Kilroy-Silk, if you will . The left-wing Jewish socialist who portrayed him began to realise that he had spawned a monster and abandoned the role.
(For the record...I think that Parker and Stone have some merit, but miss the target. The South Park movie could have been a good idea - but didn't work for me.)
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tyrone Posted Jan 24, 2005
2: there is always something in MOnty Pythen that you missed tha last time you watched it.
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jan 24, 2005
Warren Mitchell NEVER abandoned the role of Alf Garnett. He had already agreed to play Alf in the final six scripts written by Johnny Speight (whom Mitchell openly compares to Shakespeare) before the BBC and then Channel 4 gutlessly refused to shoot the series.
So far as I know Mitchell toured as recently as two years ago in 'The Thoughts of Chairman Alf.'
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BouncyBitInTheMiddle Posted Jan 24, 2005
Hmm I hardly see Matt Stone & Tray Parker as hardcore Republicans. South Park mocked everyone a little bit, but most of all it was anti-redneck. Team America well I liked it, again they mocked everyone. If you take either at all seriously then yes, you will be offended.
And anyway, have you ever seen a man eat his own head?
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Jan 24, 2005
But...did he not urge a hiatus (even though he came back to the role on TV later). I've certainly heard him (and Speight) express some disquiet about the public reactions.
(But sorry if I've got part of the story wrong).
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Edward the Bonobo - Gone. Posted Jan 24, 2005
Dare we hope that Michael Howard is being ironic?
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Jan 24, 2005
"That explains a lot! South Park is appalling rubbish. As can be seen from Team America wossname, they're die-hard pro-Neocon Republicans as well."
So err simple question here Della:-
"Have you seen Team America yourself or are you basing your opinion on the film and its makers on second hand information?"
As you will see it is a quite simple question. Probably you can (I would imagine) answer it yes or no.
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jan 24, 2005
>>Probably you can (I would imagine) answer it yes or no.<<
Not if you want the answer to make any sense
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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jan 24, 2005
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badger party tony party green party Posted Jan 24, 2005
That explains a lot!
It does
What does it explain. I like a good explanation it helps with understanding, come on tell me what it explains, but please do it in easy to understand English.
I must be really thick not to see it the same way a high brow expert on Babylon 5 would see it.
I thought that South Park was if anything anti-ALL establishment communist, neo-con, you run a flag up and they will fling doodoo at it. That's what I came to think from watching the programme and discussing it with other people but obviously I missed all those pro Bush messages that only people smart enough to pretend they are English teachers can spot.
I was too busy laughing at the jokes making fun of big corporations selling people things they dont need, organised religion selling empty promises and the education system that routinely fails children to notice or the pro-right wing propoganda.
Silly Me
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Elwyn_Centauri, geAt (O+ THS) Posted Jan 25, 2005
I am an American and I loves my gun (hee)
Monty Python is number 1!
(take this anyway you wish, it's open interpretation and all are entitled to their own opinions)
Don't like list: Simpsons, Seinfield
(don't ask, long story)
It's late and I need sleep
Cheers!
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Hoovooloo Posted Jan 25, 2005
Compare:
"It can be a dangerous strategy in that it can go over the heads of a literal-minded audience."
"Probably you can (I would imagine) answer it yes or no."
"Yes or no... "
Literal-minded faux-left-wing Christians, eh? Can't live with them, can't slit their throats and bury them in the woods.
H.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Jan 25, 2005
And of course I have admited my mistake and accepted that the question should have been posed as an either or only two posts later.
So anyhow the question still stands Della, have you seen the film or not?
I am sure like with most questions the answer to which make you look stupid I could be waiting a while. For the record I will take any silence as confirming my suspicions that you have not in fact seen Team America and are basing your opinion on either hear say or guesse work.
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Hoovooloo Posted Jan 25, 2005
For the record, I HAVE seen "Team America - World Police".
I can say with certainty that ANYONE who says that those who made it are "die-hard pro-Neocon Republicans" falls into one of two categories:
1. A cretin, because they're making a very definitive statement about something they've never seen, OR, possibly
2. A cretin, because they've seen something and missed the point so wildly that they deserve pity and contempt in almost equal measure.
I hesitate to speculate which applies to Della. I'd like to think that she's merely spouting off about something she knows NOTHING about. This is preferable because she can at least point to her ignorance as a defence for her error.
However, I can't rule out that she doesn't have the excuse of ignorance. Sadly, seeing things but missing the point wildly is pretty much one of her defining attributes, at least on h2g2, so I find it equally credible that she HAS seen the film and merely totally failed to understand it.
H.
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intelligent moose (the one true H2G2 Moose) Posted Jan 25, 2005
You guys are being a bit b***dy rude aren't you? Personal insults? That kinda nonsense is for other message boards where 90% of messages are "U R GAY" "YOU SUK". This is the BBC people!!!!
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- 361: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Jan 24, 2005)
- 362: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jan 24, 2005)
- 363: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 24, 2005)
- 364: tyrone (Jan 24, 2005)
- 365: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jan 24, 2005)
- 366: BouncyBitInTheMiddle (Jan 24, 2005)
- 367: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 24, 2005)
- 368: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 24, 2005)
- 369: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Jan 24, 2005)
- 370: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jan 24, 2005)
- 371: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Jan 24, 2005)
- 372: kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website (Jan 24, 2005)
- 373: badger party tony party green party (Jan 24, 2005)
- 374: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Jan 25, 2005)
- 375: Elwyn_Centauri, geAt (O+ THS) (Jan 25, 2005)
- 376: Hoovooloo (Jan 25, 2005)
- 377: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Jan 25, 2005)
- 378: Hoovooloo (Jan 25, 2005)
- 379: intelligent moose (the one true H2G2 Moose) (Jan 25, 2005)
- 380: Edward the Bonobo - Gone. (Jan 25, 2005)
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