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>> Hey, so do I. <<



RF

>the journalist is using the argument I've heard a few times that Ireland's "No" vote was some sort of ungratefulness <

This is what really pisses me off about the whole thing... are we supposed to be 'bought' now? We've had a bunch of money in subsidies and now we're just supposed do as we're told?
In fact, despite the subsidies Ireland (along with Britain) are doing more to promote what the EU is supposedly all about.
There aren't too many countries allowing the free travel of people from countries like Poland which have only recently joined - unlike the so-called pro-Europe countries like France and Germany we (and supposedly anti-Europe) Britain have placed no restrictions on them coming to live here, treating them like any other European. Our economic boom provided work for hundreds of thousands of Eatern Europeans, not to mention all the Euros sent home by our new co-workers. This is why Irish people are ready to say 'ya can stick yer Eu....' Why are we being treated as pariahs for agreeing with French and Dutch voters?

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/david-mcwilliams/look-what-we-have-done-for-ordinary-europeans-1413378.html
"As we are now going into our fifth year of open borders, it is likely that Ireland has put back more cash in the pockets of poor European immigrants in five years that the EU has given us in 35 years."

For the record I voted No because (and I got this from the 'Yes' camp) it would give the unelected council power to bring in legislation while only requiring that they "review" any concerns by citizens, member-state parliments or MEPs - apparently this is a great leap forward in democratic accountability!

Yes - democrartic accountability from an organisation that can't even agree where its head quartes should be and so wastes £56M per year travelling between the two.

They are so democratic they wish to consider the individual rights of every European citixzen - in order to do this they have decided they need greater powers of veto and control over the things that the individual members can vote on.

We should quit the EU - it is determined that freedom is obtained through legislation and control.

When was the last time they managed to get their accounts signed off? They may be paragons of financial probity, or they could be embezzling, swindling and robbing us blind. No one knows.

The UK Treasury can't get its accounts signed off by the NAO.

RF

>> Oh yes let's go back to going to war to sort out our differences.. <<

Yes let's.
I'm serious.
But I'd have to qualify that by saying weapons and weapons delivery systems would be limited to what a man (or woman, let's be fair) could carry so that everybody could have an equal chance to purge their inner meany. A really good dust-up is what we all sorely need. All this remote control genocide crap sucks badly.

~jwf~

Incidently when I referred to the EU as socialist someone took that to mean left wing.

I mean socialist - obsessed with top down control, attempting to legislate for every eventuality, guaranteeing the rights of the individual, whilst destroying the freedoms of the masses.

For example - do we need the dozens of different grades for vegetables ? No - it was purely a charade to protect home grown produce. In the shops people will buy what they want to buy, at the price they like - so to say that cucumbers that bend too much can't be sold is wasteful - I don't care how bent my cucumber is - I just want to eat it.