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the God Delusion thread

Post 13881

BouncyBitInTheMiddle

I'm pretty sure he's got that one backwards. In times when belief in God was prevalent, people looked back to The Philosopher (Aristotle), and a series of equivalent authorities. Innovation was a dirty word. Study meant the practice of scholasticism: reconciling opposing views from authorities to find a comfortable middle ground.

Now that nothing is sacred, anything may be criticised. New students aspire to knock the authorities from their pedestal. Originality is greatly prized.


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Post 13882

Effers;England.


>who end up going round in circles (like water draining out of a bath)<


smiley - laugh mikey's 'aving a larf.....I reckon. Must be.

Try this bath glug glug, mikey. Gawd inspired men to write the bib to make christians. How do we know Gawd did this? Because chrisses say so.


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Post 13883

anhaga

'Nah! Nietzsche killed 'im.'


but I read in a book once that hit were the Jews what killed 'im.smiley - erm


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Post 13884

Giford

By the way, I've just managed to prove I'm God, if anyone's interested.

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13885

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

I'll set Nietzsche on you!


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Post 13886

IctoanAWEWawi

that's nothing, I'm calling Christian Voice, just wait!!


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Post 13887

Giford

Neitzche is dead.

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13888

Giford

So I has thinking:

(1) Premise: It is possible for gods to exist.

(2) Premise: There exist infinite universes.

(3) Premise: In infinite universes, anything possible will happen an infinite number of times.

(4) Premise: There is no limit to the forms God can take.

(5) All possible gods exist in some universe (from 1, 2 and 3).

(6) It is possible for God to take the form of me (from 4).

(7) God exists in the form of me (from 5 and 6).

(8) I am God (from 7).

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13889

Giford

And, of course,

(9) The above logic applies equally to all people.

(10) I'm God, and so's my wife (from 9 and 10).

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13890

toybox

Frankly, I'm not convinced. Premise (3) looks fishy to me.

smiley - fish


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Post 13891

Giford

Oh, I assure you it's accurate.

And as a morally perfect being, I am of course incapable of lying.

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13892

anhaga

Actually, I suspect the argument falls down on premise 1, depending on the definition of 'gods'.

and of 'to exist'.


and maybe even of 'possible'.


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Post 13893

IctoanAWEWawi

well, although I totally disagree with premise 1, that isn;t where the logic fails.
It fails on steps~:
(6) It is possible for God to take the form of me (from 4).
(7) God exists in the form of me (from 5 and 6).
(8) I am God (from 7).

In order to establish (8) you need to establish that god can exist *as* you, not merely *in the form of* you.

Alternatively, using just what you have given, (8) should be 'there exists a 'me' who is God.


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Post 13894

Giford

Pah, see how the foolish atheist quibble over semantics, when they know in their hearts that I exist!

"there exists a 'me' who is God." - yes, and that's me!

(Ooh, this solipsism thing is fun. I can quite see the attraction.)

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13895

Giford

Or should that be 'this sophistry thing'?

smiley - smiley

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13896

IctoanAWEWawi

"yes, and that's me! "

Prove it (you're logic above does not prove that the 'you' who is corresponding with me is the same 'you' that is god.


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Post 13897

IctoanAWEWawi


you're/your


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Post 13898

Giford

Well, no, *probably* not this me in this universe, unfortunately. smiley - sadface

But some me in some universe somewhere. smiley - magic

Gif smiley - geek


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Post 13899

Taff Agent of kaos

what about what the guide in the book says about there being no life in the universe and anything looking like it is just a figment of imagineation

therefore you do not exist

there is no god

end of

smiley - bat


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Post 13900

Edward the Bonobo - Gone.

I knew that we'd get smiley - geek's theory eventually, whether or not we took the bait. smiley - winkeye

Yeah...surely premise 3) *is* dodgy? Assuming an infinite number of universes, there is a finite probability in each that smiley - geek (and/or Mrs smiley - geek) is god. Therefore across the multiverse as a whole, the probability that smiley - geek is god *tends towards* 1.

So the best we can say is that smiley - geek is probably god but might not be. smiley - smiley


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