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How should we define "planet"?

Post 41

A Super Furry Animal

Thank you, Potholer.

So, Pluto is the most eccentric planet...has it considered joining hootoo?

RFsmiley - evilgrin


How should we define "planet"?

Post 42

HonestIago

LB current theory thinks that Charon wasn't formed in a similar collision as the the Moon was with the Earth, it was probably formed in a normal way, dust and rock accumulation.
GodBen, Pluto is a planet. As someone else metioned, planet is a purely arbitrary designation and the International Astronomical Convention decided once and for all that it was in 1999. Whether it should be is a different argument.
I think as the Moon moves futher and further away its bid for planet status will improve, its certainly worthy


How should we define "planet"?

Post 43

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

The church used to say the world was round. It wasn't.

The IAC says that Pluto is a planet. It isn't


How should we define "planet"?

Post 44

Potholer

But then, it isn't hard to define what 'round' means.


How should we define "planet"?

Post 45

HonestIago

The church wasn't in a postion to determine the physical parameters of the Earth. The IAC are in a postion to say whether something is a planet because they don't need to justify it, if they say it ia a planet it is a planet because it is their decision to make


How should we define "planet"?

Post 46

HonestIago

Sorry about all the typos, I'm very tired smiley - zzz


How should we define "planet"?

Post 47

Jackruss a Grand Master of Tea and Toast, Keeper of the comfy chair, who is spending a year dead for tax reasons! DNA!

AH HA back to "roundness" see i knew it i was right!

*turns around, pickes up clip board, puts on white coat and wanders over to the lab door, well thats the unverse sorted out,next i'm going to turn my attention to "The Meaning of Life"*

smiley - tongueout


How should we define "planet"?

Post 48

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

And the US supreme court said that Bush was elected fairly. And they have authority over such matters. They were still wrong. smiley - smiley


How should we define "planet"?

Post 49

A Super Furry Animal

I am a god, and I say that Pluto is a planet. So there.

RFsmiley - evilgrin


How should we define "planet"?

Post 50

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

(Look at my name)

So am I. Pluto is not a planet. smiley - smiley


How should we define "planet"?

Post 51

HonestIago

Yes but the IAC, unlike the US Supreme Court, showed no bias in it's decision


How should we define "planet"?

Post 52

A Super Furry Animal

You're the god of door knobs, eunuchs and car dealerships, not deciding whether celestial bodies are planets or otherwise. I, on the other hand, am an all-purpose god, and this is one of my purposes.

So there.

RFsmiley - evilgrin


How should we define "planet"?

Post 53

GodBen (The Magical Astronomer) - 00000011

They did if they said that Pluto is a planet.


How should we define "planet"?

Post 54

Jackruss a Grand Master of Tea and Toast, Keeper of the comfy chair, who is spending a year dead for tax reasons! DNA!

Kühl


smiley - tongueout


How should we define "planet"?

Post 55

HonestIago

No they didn't. They have yet to publish their definition of what is a planet, so if they decide Pluto is a planet, they are showing no more bias than when they decided the other 8 were planets


How should we define "planet"?

Post 56

A Super Furry Animal

The dyslexic IAC have decided that Pluto is, in fact, a plant.

RFsmiley - evilgrin


How should we define "planet"?

Post 57

HonestIago

smiley - laugh


How should we define "planet"?

Post 58

Lemon Blossom (aka Athena Albatross)

"The IAC says that Pluto is a planet. It isn't"

The word planet only has meaning with an arbitrary definition. By the IAU's, it is a planet. By mine, it is a planet. By yours, it is not a planet. However, the IAU has the authority to decide which definition is right.


How should we define "planet"?

Post 59

Lemon Blossom (aka Athena Albatross)

"The other peculiarity with Pluto is it doesn't have a standard orbit, and on occasion is nearer the Sun than Neptune, because it is on an elliptical rather than circular orbit. This surely makes it a satellite rather than a planet?"

How does that make it a satelite??? By that definition, the asteroids are all satelites. That may be evidence that it is an asteroid/inactive comet, but certainly not that it is a satelite.


How should we define "planet"?

Post 60

Lemon Blossom (aka Athena Albatross)

"The Moon is gradually drifting away? What sort of time frame are we talking about?"

Billions of years.

It formed 3-4 billion years ago much closer to the Earth. It has been moving away, taking angular momentum from the Earth, and slowing Earth's spin since then. THe main cause of this is tidal friction. Once it gets far enough out and Earth is turning slow enough, it will be tidally locked with Earth's rotation (as Pluto-Charon is) and will always face the same place on Earth. Then it will be stable, I think.


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