h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Get the kids to study athiesm definately - they need all the armory they can get. We just have to ensure that no relion is taught in schools. After all, schools are supposed to be tools for combating ignorance, not reinforcing it.

To be fair, at least in that latter posting, if memory serves, Justin *did* stay on topic. The topic being education, and his position being that we're a*ses to even attempt it.

I studied a form of atheism for two years in A-level Religious Studies. It was called Buddhism.

"He can do anything, bar one thing; sin."

Justin, in the Bible God kills thousands upon thousands of people for offending His will. Sorry, but that looks pretty sinful to me by an enormous scale and I don't see how that makes him much different to Stalin, or Satan for that matter (actually, doesn't the old testament say God and the Devil are one and the same?). If you think mass-murder of people for living in a city that has displeased a genocidal God is "moral" then why are you preaching about the fundamental sins of humanity? Humanists (who are agnostic by nature) are against murder purely because we feel it is wrong. Christians, Muslims and other religious monotheists only think murder is wrong if God has forbidden it, otherwise it is deemed acceptable - for them only the will of God, not human suffering, informs morality. This is why I don't take lessons in morality for religious believers, you included.

hi Zagreb,

New Justin thread over here! F19585?thread=384501

Barely readable though, since the moderators haven't let most of his stuff through. Still, better there than here.



az

Zagreb,

I don't think you should be doing anything so foolish as to charge Almighty God with sin. He holds your life in His hand, and when He says you die.

You do not understand what is and what is not sin. Military action and judicial execution are not sin.

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Well, Justin I must (with temerity!) disagree, and I am a Christian. Many other Christians would disagree with you about this - maybe you'd claim they aren't Christians? But we are!

...Like the "military action" of killing all the first-born? or was that "judicial execution"?

"I don't think you should be doing anything so foolish as to charge Almighty God with sin."

Why the f**k not? You've said yourself many times that it doesn't matter AT ALL what we do in this life. Some of us are going to be saved, the rest burn, and no amount of good works makes any difference. No amount of sinning does either, otherwise an adulterous alcoholic like you would never have been saved, right?

Della,

Well, you are charging God with sin then.

His way with various sinners under the Law was execution. In this Covenant it has changed, by come Judgement Day He is going to execute all sinners. Are you accusing Him of unrighteousness?

You will know that the commandment 'thou shalt not kill' appears first in Ex.20. But if you read the next two chapters you will see that He intends them to drive out the enemy by military force. You will know that at Jericho and many other places He instructed His people to kill all in sight. So, if he meant that all killing was sin, when he gave that commandment how could the children of Israel obey His commandments regarding the Law, and military action? Or are you charging God with hypocrisy too?

He has already stated that He is going to burn all sinners, and you are claiming that this is 'sin'? And you are claiming to be His?!!!

Justin

"Military action and judicial execution are not sin."

Still struggling with that deep, complex, and difficult to understand commandment "Thou shalt not kill", huh?

Or if you want to talk New Covenant, what in heaven could Jesus possibly have meant when he came up with that obscurantist nonsense "Love your neighbour as yourself" - I mean, what the hell does THAT mean? I mean, that's FIVE WHOLE WORDS, and two of them have TWO syllables. How is anyone meant to make sense of such a complicated commandment, let alone live their life by it? No wonder the Christian church has spent the last two thousand years arguing about exactly what the Bible means when its message is couched in such hazy and vague terms.

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Oh come on now! What has this got to do with children being offered a wider base of religious and philosophical teachings?

Well, I'll tell you - NOTHING - that's what.

Justin, I gave your new thread a plug here, okay? I am sure people are swarming there in droves now to read about your wisdom since you are the mouthpiece of God Almighty. So please stop polluting this thread with your nonsense. Thank you very much.

az

Oops. I fed the troll.

Bad Member!

"You do not understand what is and what is not sin. Military action and judicial execution are not sin."

Could you point out when Jesus actually said this? Or are you just making it up as you go along in order to satisfy your own vanity, like most religious "fundamentalists"?

"You will know that at Jericho and many other places He instructed His people to kill all in sight."

This kind of "thinking" is why people like you and Osama bin Laden are a menace to liberty and the human race. How dare you presume the right to kill in the name of "God". If there is a God, then I doubt he is on the side of any of you. If there is an Armageddon then we'll win.

>> Oops. I fed the troll. <<

Oops. Ditto.

*sigh*

Tsk, feed feed away. I am

Sorry az.

Zagreb,

There are plenty of other threads to chat with Justin. I have asked him several times to stop hijacking this one. Here he is trolling. On his own threads he is . . . well, decide for yourself.

az