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And I think Id like to be included in this list.

I hadn't heard anything about this, but our newspapers are generally only include stories like this as a one paragraph blurb. I haven't been listening to NPR lately (I've been listening to the Lord of the Rings on CD when I commute).

I think Denmark is within it's rights to release the guy, and Russia is within its rights to use its political and or economic influence to have him extradited.

If your county wanted a criminal extradited, I bet you'd appreciate it if they complied. If we had him in our custody, I wouldn't have a problem with his extradition.

>I too think that denmark should stand up to threats. But also should be careful. Russia might decide to take the lead from how the US dealt with the situation with Afghanistan. Lets hope the Russians respect international law a little more than the americans do.<


Are you saying Denmarks goverment is made up of foreigners who oppress their people, impose their fanatical religous doctrine on them and is allowing terrorist groups {who are openly training to strike at russia} to operate within it's country? If not I see no relation to what happened between the United States and Afganistan.

>> If not I see no relation to what happened between the United States and Afganistan.<<
You may well have a point there, birth, inasmuch as Russia has not *invaded* Denmark, attacked a sovereign nation (because it's full of 'foreigners' (?) and killed 1000s of people!

That is trues as Denmarks goverment is made up of {invading}foreigners who oppress their people, impose their fanatical religous doctrine on them and is allowing terrorist groups {who are openly training to strike at russia} to operate within it's country.

The above post should read :

That is trues as Denmarks goverment is NOT made up of {invading}foreigners who oppress their people, impose their fanatical religous doctrine on them and is allowing terrorist groups {who are openly training to strike at russia} to operate within it's country.

I apologiese for the typo.

Phew - I was getting worried there

The Sakajev issue is done VERY much by the book - as the press is all over it, scrutinising for stuff that can make them say the government is being political about it one way or the other (depending on the particular paper's viewpoint).

So the material supplied by the Russians are evaluated by the state prosecutor against international treaties. One issue is that according to Danish law, we don't extradite people to countries with a death penalty (I wonder what would happen if the US ever wanted somebody...).

Also, the general view in Denmark is that overall, the Russians are the bad guys in the Chechnian conflict - though the Chechnians are picking up all too well with downright terrorist attacks like the one in Moscow.

my sympathys for years were with the palistinians. I beleave they got the short end of the stick. No matter how good the intentions were of giving the Israelies a home after WW2. I really have not had an opinion on the russian/chechnian dispute.

But any sympathy or leanings do not condone killing innocent civilians to make political points. I do not accept rhetoric that try's to justify these actions by using the "David verses Golith" aurgument {what is a poor people to do when oppressed by a more powerful goverment: why terrorize it's and all other civilions by murdering them while they go about everyday life} This makes the victims worse than the oppresser's and not only creates a circle of retaliation it also turns main stream world opinion against them. In this way those who commit these acts of violence in the name of a cause are in reality that causes worst enemies.

Why, birth, mate, you're talking sense! I am forced to agree with you, a mostuncomfortable feeling!
You supported the Palestinians?

Not to worry Della I am sure it is only a once in a Blue moon thing.

Bob the farmer:
>And I think Id like to be included in this list<

After you comment on the "what do you think of bush " thread stating you would assasinate him if you had the chance I am sure you are on a list albeit most likly the one you wanted to be on.

Hmmmm - just before this erupts: Is that a discussion you really need to have across threads?

It just got to me when a person who has condemed another of proliferating violance turns around and offers up his soloution to the situation: Assasinate The US president for his stand {words} on war.

However your right Santragenius I apologize for crossing threads.

I hadn't heard about this before reading it here.

It seems to me any sovereign nation can decide that any rebels are criminals. I am unitedstatian. If racists of the state of Georgia of the United States (who were betrayed by their currently elected governor who refused to restore the 'stars and bars' to prominence on their state flag, as he so solemnly promised) decided to secede, used weapons to do so, and met in Denmark to plan further success, I'd want my government to force you-all to give them up in any way possible.

I don't know the actual purpose of the Chechen congress. Perhaps those particular folks aren't advocating rebellion, or planning to subvert the law of the Russian Federation. Perhaps Denmark isn't violating one of the main principles of the United Nations, that each nation could control it's own internal affairs; perhaps they do not intend to insult Russia.

If rebellion is a criminal act in Russia, and this is what the Chechen congress wants, then allowing them to convene in your country is seriously hostile behavior. It's perfectly OK to not like someone or some particular nation and behave in an unpleasant fashion towards them, though. It seems from the posts here, that the cost of that pleases most of you.

I doubt the United States or any of us citizens here care what Denmark does one way or another.



I am indifferent to who is sovereign in Jerusalem. It looks like my nation is going to secure it's dependence on oil independent of Islam, by unprovokedly invading a sovereign country, rather than shift over to less polluting solutions. In realpolitik terms, we won't need the Saudis or Israel if we succeed.

As for the Palestinians, when Sadat and Begin shook hands, I was instantly swerved from neutral to positive to their cause, and even started reading the Qu'ran.

Then, they danced in the streets and fed each other cake as my fellow citizens died in a barbaric act. Israel can kill or expel them all, as far as I care.

>Then, they danced in the streets and fed each other cake as my fellow citizens died in a barbaric act. Israel can kill or expel them all, as far as I care.<

I saw that to and even more sickening was listening to the liberal apoligetics trying to excuse it by saying it was only a few children. well it was not a few as I have talked to people who were their and they said it was as if the palastinians had won the world cup. I do not think they realized how much they hurt there own cause by there sickening disply. To cheer the death of over 3,000 inocent civilians is loathsome.

Yes, it's been played down and it's all very regrettable, but as we've seen it all before (on the streets of America immediately after Hiroshima was bombed springs to mind), can we just assume it's part of the human condition rather than some disorder specific to Palestinians?