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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Oct 29, 2004
>> ...~jwf~ will be along soon with a plausible(?) explanation of why "sparrow's fart" means "too effing early. <<
The 'soon' bit I can validate, it being a mere 20 minutes since your posting. But...
Truth is I had no idea it meant 'early'. And would have taken it as a British variant on the North American habit of referring to the feces or genitalia of small animals when making a point that something is small, without great value, meaningless or insignifcant.
"Not worth a pinch of 'coon s**t."
"I don't give a rat's a** about that."
It is a well known fact that the British love their birds in a way that is similar to America's love affair with rodents and other furry mammals of various sizes. Perhaps we should ask a Brit to explain why the gaseous excretions from a sparrow's anus would have anything to do with complaining about prematurities. 'Tis said the early bird doth get the worm and I know from experience that light sleepers often cannot lie abed thru the morning chorus of our winged friends.
Neckst.
~jwf~
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 29, 2004
I use the term sparrow fart for cock crow... I nearly used it here, but I wasn't sure it would be okay...
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kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 Posted Oct 29, 2004
I guess the sparrow's fart would be the thing the sparrow does after waking and before getting up, having its morning coffee and breaking into the dawn chorus.
I was always amused by the phrase 'a gnat's cock' to describe a very small distance - usually used by workmen measuring things. "You're a gnat's cock out here John!"
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Potholer Posted Oct 29, 2004
I'd assumed that 'sparrow's fart' was simply a coarsened reference to more poetic ways of describing the dawn chorus, substituting a common bird and a less romantic biological sound.
I'd have thought that the most common gnat reference was in the phrase referring to misers - 'as tight as a gnat's chuff'.
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logicus tracticus philosophicus Posted Oct 29, 2004
bits left over after thrashing and flaying
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Potholer Posted Oct 30, 2004
'chuff' isn't specific, but refers to lower orifices.
Presumably with gnats, the lack of specificity isn't a problem.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Oct 30, 2004
>> 'chuff' isn't specific, but refers to lower orifices. <<
If this is true then I will need to reform my idea of what is meant by "chuffed."
I thought it meant happy with a situation or pleased by an outcome.
How then do the lower orif...
I dare not speculate further.
The verb chuff and the noun chuff seem to be different.
Hopefully someone can set us right here.
~jwf~
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Potholer Posted Oct 30, 2004
'Chuffed' meaning the state of being pleased is fine.
However, 'chuff' can also be used as a verb meaning 'to break wind' - maybe there's some kind of connection with chuff-chuff being a childish word for steam locomotive?
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Vestboy Posted Nov 1, 2004
Marrow - being a mate is still used in parts of the north. I have a friend who when looking for the accompanying sock to the one he has managed to find in the clean washing shouting "I canny find the marrer to this one!"
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Tamrhind Posted Nov 1, 2004
From an expatriate Brit living in the Antipodes (where did THAT term come from?) and being friends with a (pre-Mugabbwe) Rhodesian, I say 'sparrow's fart' means the same as " crack of dawn" (origins please?).
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Recumbentman Posted Nov 1, 2004
Antipodes: feet in the opposite direction. Ex-Pat: one who has renounced his Irish nationality Crack of dawn: Break of day?
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Vestboy Posted Nov 1, 2004
Antipodes - The poetry written by an emmet to it's Internet Provider.
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Recumbentman Posted Nov 1, 2004
Apparently "Antipodes" was pronounced with three syllables at first: Aunty Poads.
People showing off their familiarity with Latin were responsible for making it four: Aunt Ippody's.
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plaguesville Posted Nov 1, 2004
Antipodes - Protest movement started by thrash metal enthusiasts who, deafened by the volume of their favourite music, misheard the name of an Irish influenced music group.
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Is mise Duncan Posted Nov 1, 2004
Erm - it's "gnats chuft". More likely to be found in the "profanisaurus" than in any dictionary.
Not related to chuffed, you'll be tickled pink to know.
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