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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Started conversation Jul 24, 2010
What links the following in more ways than one?
Rod; Pole; Perch.
Who linked them together?
When?
What were they linked into?
Google and wiki forbidden..
GT
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MMF - Keeper of Mustelids, with added P.M.A., is now in a relationship. Posted Jul 25, 2010
Well , the obvious is length, 22' I believe, yet chain is missing, which is the same measurement,
So my other link would be fishing.
Rods tend to be in different sections, a pole is a single piece rod, while a perch is both a fish, and the point where you fish from.
That should be , I guess?
MMF
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jul 25, 2010
emu
rod was perched on the roof trying to ajust the pole of his ariel, when he fell and ended up 6 foot under
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Geggs Posted Jul 25, 2010
The only interesting thing that I can add is the story of how Samuel Clements chose his pen-name of Mark Twain.
I think it revolved around the depth measurement method used on the paddle steamers. There was a rope with evenly spaced knots (probably a specific distance, but I now can't remember) and this rope would be let over the side of the boat. There would be a sailor that would keep hold of the rope and he would shout "Mark Twain" on every other knot, as two had gone through his hands.
I may have mis-remembered this story entirely, and I don't even know if its true. But it is the story as best as I remember.
Geggs
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Rod Posted Jul 25, 2010
Nay, MMF - a chain is 22yards, not feet.
Hey, Taff - thou shalt not take the name of rod in vain (and I'm still on my perch, thank you).
geggs - hence the fathom... those knots/marks would have been fathoms - or parts thereof.
'Fathom it out' obviously suggests a nautical theme but I can't recall rod/pole/perch being used at sea.
Chain, however is/was used at sea.
Anyway, as i recall, pole & perch are related to but not the same as rod... they being areas (of one square rod?).
Aha. four rods, one chain, mumble chains (8?) one furlong...
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted Jul 25, 2010
Right!
MMF post 2.
22 feet is way out.
Fishing? Corect,it is a -5
Rods in different setions? Not this one -5
This perch is not a fish! -5
Taff post 3.
No!
geggs post 4.
Never heard that before. Have a shiny DGI +1
Rod post 5.
On your perch? You can't sit on my perch! Have a -5
Chain is 22 yards, correct +3
'Fathom' was just a cluelet, and has no bearing on the QI.
Pole and perch not the same as rod? Yes they are. Forgot to klaxon thay error!
4 rods (or poles or perch) equals one chain. Correct +3
So how many (mumble) chains in a furlong. What was the original meaning of 'furlong'?
GT
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Jul 25, 2010
8 furlongs to a mile
an acre is the area of a rectangle whos length is a furlong and whos width is a chain
a cricket playing area between the stumps is a chain
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hygienicdispenser Posted Jul 25, 2010
Derivation of the word furlong: If people were going for a short walk, they'd say "It's only about an eighth of a mile, I won't be gone furlong"
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted Jul 25, 2010
Hi Taff!
Don't know how to tell you this..........
Here goes!!
8 furlongs to the mile, +3
Acre is a field 1 furlong by 1 chain, +3
Cricket pitch 1 chain between stumps, +3
Total of +9 there!!!
hygenic - Terrible joke!!!
GT
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Rod Posted Jul 25, 2010
Furlong = long furrow, as in ploughing a (British Standard) field.
Pre decimalisation, running tracks were 440 yards around (2 furlongs). The idea was taken from the Roman tracks (Stadia) - which were measured in their own miles of course...
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Rod Posted Jul 25, 2010
Well, now lets see.
Long furrow, a furlong in length, 8 to the mile.
Acre: 4840 sqyds, furlong along, chain across -
Acre: what could be ploughed in one day - pretty small for a field, so
Field: = 1 furlong x 1 furlong? 10 acres? 10 days a-ploughing.
All of which brings us to the very brink of answering the question, doesn't it?
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted Jul 25, 2010
1 acre = 1 furlong x 1 chain
Correct +3
However, there is a special significance to the 'furlong'
What is it.
What is the significance of the 'rod'?
Who standardised the measurements of rod, pole and perch? (We already know that they are all the same!)
When were they standardised?
GT
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Rod Posted Jul 25, 2010
To be fair, Taff @7 already got: 1 acre = 1 furlong x 1 chain
Furlong: The length of a Serf's (or villein's) allocation of land for his own use?
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted Jul 25, 2010
Thanx for correction Rod!
Not a Serfs allocation of land........
How can I put it?????
There is something of a legal bent to the furlong!
GT
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Argon0 (50 and feeling it - back for a bit) Posted Jul 26, 2010
How much of a head start you had to give a lawyer before riding them down with a lance/pack of Dogs?
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Nalot of the Silver Posted Jul 26, 2010
Never give a lawyer a fighting chance... Cut him down in his sleep!
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Argon0 (50 and feeling it - back for a bit) Posted Jul 26, 2010
How far you could fling a lawyer from a standard siege catapult?
(thus, how far a lawyer had been Flung...)
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Deadangel - Still not dead, just! Posted Jul 27, 2010
What kind of standard siege catapult?
Yer average Trebuchet could fling a lawyer quite some distance, but may shake itself to bits in the process, as they're used for throwing weights of several tons. You'd have to pack quite a few lawyers in to make that weight up.
Before you ask, no I'm not helping you gather lawyers, I quite like the ones I work with.
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- 1: gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA (Jul 24, 2010)
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- 3: Taff Agent of kaos (Jul 25, 2010)
- 4: Geggs (Jul 25, 2010)
- 5: Rod (Jul 25, 2010)
- 6: gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA (Jul 25, 2010)
- 7: Taff Agent of kaos (Jul 25, 2010)
- 8: hygienicdispenser (Jul 25, 2010)
- 9: gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA (Jul 25, 2010)
- 10: Rod (Jul 25, 2010)
- 11: gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA (Jul 25, 2010)
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- 15: gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA (Jul 25, 2010)
- 16: Argon0 (50 and feeling it - back for a bit) (Jul 26, 2010)
- 17: Nalot of the Silver (Jul 26, 2010)
- 18: Argon0 (50 and feeling it - back for a bit) (Jul 26, 2010)
- 19: Deadangel - Still not dead, just! (Jul 27, 2010)
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