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toybox Posted Apr 14, 2009
Doesn't Uzbekistan have a border with Turkmenistan, on the Caspian Sea?
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toybox Posted Apr 14, 2009
Not to mention its very own shore on the Aral Sea.
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HonestIago Posted Apr 14, 2009
Both the Aral Sea and Caspian Sea are lakes. And the Aral probably won't be around for much longer - the conservation efforts don't seem to be working.
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toybox Posted Apr 14, 2009
What makes them lakes instead of seas, is it only a matter of size?
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HonestIago Posted Apr 14, 2009
They don't have a direct connection to an ocean. That's the definition of a lake.
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HonestIago Posted Apr 14, 2009
Sorry, I should probably clarify that.
A body of water is a lake if it doesn't connect to either an ocean directly or another sea. Seas can be connected by straits but not rivers.
Lake Superior has a connection all the way through to the Atlantic - Thunder Bay in Wisconsin is the most inland port that can be reached by ocean-going vessels - but it is connected by rivers. The Sea of Azov in the Ukraine, which has the sea port furthest from any ocean, Taganrog, is connected to the Black Sea through the Straits of Kerch, which is linked to the Med by the Bosphorous and the Dardenelles (both straits) and to the Atlantic through the Straits of Gibraltar.
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toybox Posted Apr 14, 2009
Ah, I thought it involved something subtle about what was or wasn't present in the water. I'm glad it's easy then. Thanks
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toybox Posted Apr 15, 2009
According to Chambers (and w*nkipedia), a Sea can also denote a large inland saltwater lake, which goes to explain why the Caspian sea is called a sea and not a Lake. This doesn't prevent countries bordering it to be landlocked, but then I feel that by the same token, Ontario on the Lake Superior shouldn't be considered as landlocked.
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HonestIago Posted Apr 15, 2009
It's actually debatable whether there are five Great Lakes or four: Michigan and Huron could be seen as the the same lake with just a narrow strait between the two lobes.
There's no difference in the elevation between them or water level and water mixes freely between the two. Hydrologically, it's one lake, which'd make Ontario the only province or state to border all the Great Lakes.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Jan 13, 2010
They vanished into the aether...
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bobstafford Posted Jan 30, 2010
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F3555392?thread=7188269 will do nicely
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