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QI ~ Double Landlocked

Post 21

toybox

Doesn't Uzbekistan have a border with Turkmenistan, on the Caspian Sea?


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Post 22

toybox

Not to mention its very own shore on the Aral Sea.


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Post 23

HonestIago

Both the Aral Sea and Caspian Sea are lakes. And the Aral probably won't be around for much longer - the conservation efforts don't seem to be working.


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Post 24

toybox

What makes them lakes instead of seas, is it only a matter of size?


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Post 25

HonestIago

They don't have a direct connection to an ocean. That's the definition of a lake.


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Post 26

HonestIago

Sorry, I should probably clarify that.

A body of water is a lake if it doesn't connect to either an ocean directly or another sea. Seas can be connected by straits but not rivers.

Lake Superior has a connection all the way through to the Atlantic - Thunder Bay in Wisconsin is the most inland port that can be reached by ocean-going vessels - but it is connected by rivers. The Sea of Azov in the Ukraine, which has the sea port furthest from any ocean, Taganrog, is connected to the Black Sea through the Straits of Kerch, which is linked to the Med by the Bosphorous and the Dardenelles (both straits) and to the Atlantic through the Straits of Gibraltar.


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Post 27

toybox

Ah, I thought it involved something subtle about what was or wasn't present in the water. I'm glad it's easy then. Thanks smiley - cheers


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Post 28

toybox

So it is still a bit subtle.


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Post 29

toybox

According to Chambers (and w*nkipedia), a Sea can also denote a large inland saltwater lake, which goes to explain why the Caspian sea is called a sea and not a Lake. This doesn't prevent countries bordering it to be landlocked, but then I feel that by the same token, Ontario on the Lake Superior shouldn't be considered as landlocked.

smiley - cdouble


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Post 30

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Ontario actually has waterfrontage on four on four of the five great lakes.
smiley - bigeyes
~jwf~


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Post 31

HonestIago

As does Michigan.


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Post 32

HonestIago

It's actually debatable whether there are five Great Lakes or four: Michigan and Huron could be seen as the the same lake with just a narrow strait between the two lobes.

There's no difference in the elevation between them or water level and water mixes freely between the two. Hydrologically, it's one lake, which'd make Ontario the only province or state to border all the Great Lakes.


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Post 33

Taff Agent of kaos

were the points posted for this one???

smiley - bat


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Post 34

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

They vanished into the aether...



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Post 35

McKay The Disorganised

I'm so sorry folks

SWL 3pnts

Honest Iago 3 Pnts

MMF -5 smiley - bluelight

McKay ~ smiley - elf

What year should I put these onto ?

smiley - cider


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Post 36

bobstafford

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/F3555392?thread=7188269 will do nicely


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