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That's OUR Justin!!! That totally passed me by! I heard the rather 'clever' acronym of GAYS but it did not click that it was actually Justin Hughes!!!

He is gay isn't he? Got to be!

I wanna say good thought wataway

Hi, Matholwch... that's one scary guy! His Dominion theology isn't, fortunately, widely accepted even in the USA, and that he has Dubya's ear (or backs him which amounts to the same thing) is a worry!

Hi Astro

I heard that letter too. It was hysterical, full-on JtP with all the bells and crucifixes. I almost choked to death on my coffee.... Especially when he went on about 'sodomites'.

It's nice to see the old viper has lost none of his bite. I wonder if he will ever come back here to entertain us?

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\

Hi Goodyasser

And welcome to the God-thread. I see you come in from post 60, well we are about 26,000 posts on from that now, but please do not let that put you off. No-one expects you to catch up, ok?

One day the christian God may well scream "IS ANY OTHER GOD BESIDE ME THERE?" and the reply he will get from the other Gods is, "Are you still there, we thought you'd disappeared with your sad followers"

As for death, well that is a necessary part of the natural cycle of birth, growth, death and rebirth. It is not something to fear, but something to be accepted. Fear of death cripples life and drives people into the arms of those who would promise immortality in return for your obedience and soul.

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\

Sound like Yoda you do..only with better grammatical sentence structure.

Hi Alfster

Wondered often I have why, if Yoda Jedi Master is, cannot he sentence proper construct?

Blessings,
Matholwch /|\
[Not a fan of all that dualistic pseudo-christo/buddhism]

Sentance proper construct he can! Nothing wrong I see in his word order. Sanskritish as it is.

Sanskrit? Why'd you need to go all the way over there? Its clearly Deutsch. 'Lightsaber', why its surely a Germanesque compound word.

i think the most important thing about choosing to believe God or otherwise is, to make sure you're starting the thread of logic from zero. and not basing your thoughts anything in your own particular little world. it's a question of when existance was not. and i'm not sure it's possible for a mind to really grasp the idea, at least, not possible to keep thinking on it long enough. and nothing existing means just that, no tiny particules, no energy, nothing. was there such a state, and does this question mean anything? belief in God as i see it means you don't believe there ever was such a state, as God didn't begin anywhere, as only things bound to time begins swh, and time is only another creation of God. if you don't believe in God, what do you exactly believe? anything coming out of nothing? i'm not trying yo 'prove' the existance of God, which's a silly thing, because it's a matter of 'belief'. but i'm curious. perhaps it all comes down to the concept of the whole existance being without beginning and therefore what is generally meant by God? and i hate it when discussing the concept of God, to mention the particular aspects of God as one particular religion defines them. it's pointless.

Hi AnarchistDuck,

Welcome to the God Thread. You did the same thing I did when I first found this thread and answered the first post. No need to read the backlog of course, and things have been rather quiet here recently. But I'm sure others will show up soon.

A bit of friendly advice - if you use punctuation and paragraphs your posts will be much easier for others to read. And apologies in advance if you happen to be dyslexic.


az

hi azahar
I'm not dyslexic only lazy so it's ok

AnarchistDuck.

Thanks for not taking my advice badly. Just trying to help

az

Thanks az for welcoming AnarchistDuck to the thread. You are right, the thead has been very quiet for a while. Three weeks without a post is near a record.

AnarchistDuck, I don't believe our Universe began with the Big Bang so I don't have any trouble believing there has always been an Universe and there always will be one.

<< to make sure you're starting the thread of logic from zero. and not basing your thoughts anything in your own particular little world.>>

Not an unusual aspiration, AD, but not one that can actually be carried through. The only place anyone can start from is where they actually are.

Noggin

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um, one can at least try to keep away from blatant assumptions and simplistic deductions. like, God can't be because.. there's starvation. i never thought it was an easy thing to do, but even to try might be better than nothing.

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well but i mentioned just that too as i understand it, the concept of God is a being that has always been and that will always be. it's not all there's to it in my personal belief system, but that's one basic point.

btw, believing the big bang theory doesn't necessarily mean that big bang was the .beginning. of our universe. it just might be collapsing and bursting out again in an endless cycle, as i understand it.

Ooh, this takes me back (perhaps a couple of thousand posts even , its in there somewhere). Choice:

(1) Universe is eternal.
(2) Universe is limited in time.

I don't know which I'd prefer as a more likely explanation. Both have an attraction from a conservation of x point of view. (1) implies that matter and energy could have been constant forever. (2) Implies that there's a finite amount of space.time to go around.

But the issue with number (2), how everything began. Well the answers are:
(2a) I don't know (this is better than guesses at least, which is what I feel deities are).
(2b) It doesn't matter since time begins along with space, and to talk about beginnings without time is weird/nonsensical. In this I see equivalence with an eternal universe in which matter & energy is forever conserved.

At this point, in my opinion, all branches basically lead from "how did the universe begin?" to a much more pertinent "why is the universe here?"

Which, again, I don't know.

I feel that all of these conundrums could apply equally to any deity you care to postulate, and personally I prefer to cut out the middle man, along with the equivalent middle woman (we call her Tiamat), and all the middle 'it's, 'thing's, abstractions and 'no-thing's you can imagine.

Quick before it disappears:

A Dr of Theology showing that he has absolutely no idea about evolution via the old tired arguement that things in nature are so elegant and fit togetehr so well that it shows that there is some ordering intelligence.

And he's written a book about it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/wednesday.shtml

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today5_godisdead_20060628.ram