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Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22081

Runescribe

Beg pardon? That metaphor went over my head with a gentle woosh.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22082

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

I was thinking of the line "all pants no trousers" but substituted apparel for christmas dinner fare.

It made sense in my head when I thought of it. smiley - erm

smiley - chick


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22083

Runescribe

What Lewis was going for was a book about Christianity. Not Orthodox, not Catholic, not Anglican, just the basic principles.
Only then he starts from human nature and argues for the existence of God, which is an odd place to start. Most proponents of 'basic Christianity' would probably start with "So there was this guy in Palestine, right, and he was pretty awesome..."

(I'm not familiar with the 'all pants no trousers' metaphor, either. smiley - erm Pants as in underwear, or pants as in trousers?)


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22084

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

I'll leave now. smiley - lurk

I erred massively

It's 'All mouth no trousers' I was thinking of (Where did 'pants' come from?? smiley - erm )

I think I'll just quit while I'm behind....


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22085

Runescribe

I'm still lost smiley - biggrin Runescribe and verbal cognition are not mixing well today.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22086

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Clive and making sense were uncomfortable bed fellows.

To take the metaphor further, they had organised separate beds, slept in opposite ends of the house and didn't speak to each other at breakfast.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22087

Runescribe

smiley - laugh


Put down what you are doing and watch this instead....

Post 22088

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

>> Moving on, I think I can guarantee that at least 3 of the next 5 weeks will be less commonplace...<<

smiley - bigeyes

"The thoughtful bear always defeats the frivolous monkey."
- Achmed the Dead Terrorist on the Jeff Dunham Show.
See the U-toobs! smiley - laugh

smiley - rofl
~jwf~


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22089

Emerson

Thanks Clive. Sounds reasonably broad, then. Will give it a shot. At some point.

Mere Christianity... Thanks Turnsup, now you've put that idea about 'fake modesty' into my head, it'll be there forever, ever time I see the book's spine.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22090

Giford

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The first in a planned series of 'slightly unusual' quotations...

Gif smiley - geek


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22091

Giford

Well... 'series' of two, anyway...

Gif smiley - geek


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22092

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Further to your enquiry Emerson, you might find this interesting and profitable.

50 Voices of Disbelief: Why we are Atheists
http://www.amazon.co.uk/50-Voices-Disbelief-Why-Atheists/dp/1405190469/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258874113&sr=8-1

Here's a taster:

Too Good to Be True, Too Obscure to Explain: Cognitive Shortcomings of Belief in God by Thomas W. Clark
http://www.naturalism.org/Toogoodtobetrue.htm

I was Umming and Ahhing about whether or not I could get away with ordering this for Christmas, provided I bind it in sack cloth and ashes smiley - winkeye and promise not to read it over dinner, maybe. smiley - devil

But this standard of essay has certainly persuaded me to get a copy.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22093

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Found another.

Imagine No Religion by Edgar Dahl
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/dahl20091109/

So 48 out of the 50 left... smiley - bigeyes

smiley - book


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22094

Giford

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=151058316

Mmm.

Gif smiley - geek


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22095

IctoanAWEWawi

ah come on Gif, you have to use the daily mail link so we all get to see the comments!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1230860/Jesus-visited-Glastonbury-uncle-according-new-film.html


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22096

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Sounds like special pleading, probably is.

Reminds me of the kind of question the preoccupies the kind of fundamentalist Christians who run rapture ready and agonise over who will be in the pre-tribulation governments like "why isn't america mentioned in the bible?"

Of course the messiah of the Jews came to Glastonbury to further his education in Greek and Roman thinking.


Reading/Read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins?

Post 22097

Giford

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Gif smiley - geek


LIVE DEBATE!!

Post 22098

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

One time only.

The next Intelligence Squared Debate (after 'is the catholic church a force for good?') "Atheism is the new fundamentalism" is being streamed LIVE over the web starting in about five minutes.

Here:
http://www.intelligencesquared.com/live

Speakers for the motion:
Richard Harries - Former Bishop of Oxford.
Charles Moore - Former editor of the Daily Telegraph and The Spectator.

Speakers against the motion:

Richard Dawkins - Professor Emeritus at Oxford University and best-selling author of 'The God Delusion'.
A C Grayling - Professor of Philosophy at the University of London.




LIVE DEBATE!!

Post 22099

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Starting....


LIVE DEBATE!!

Post 22100

Alfster

For anyone, including me, who hasn't managed to see it should available as a stream later on like the drubbing Anne Widdycum and some Bish got from Stephen Fry and Chris Hitchens.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/11/08/hitchens-and-fry-v-the-catholic-church/

Although this one was broadcast by the Beeb which is maybe why it got on Youtube.


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