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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Aug 9, 2003
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Mister Matty Posted Aug 9, 2003
Incidentally, despite what's been said here, it's been reported on TV news that the surviving burglar has not dropped the case, but has instead "upped" his demands for compensation from £15,000 to £100,000.
I still don't think he'll get the money, but still.
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Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Posted Aug 9, 2003
"Mr Martin, why have you refused legal counsel & representation?"
"I'll be defending myself, m'lud."
BOOM
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Aug 9, 2003
Fearon is a fool, in that cae, but his foolishness should not be used to smokescreen the facts of the case.
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Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Aug 9, 2003
Did Martin do any actual farming on his lands?
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Aug 9, 2003
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 11, 2003
In response to Zagreb:-
The actions of Fearon subsequent to the case have no bearing on the guilt/innocence of Martin.
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Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump Posted Aug 11, 2003
Indeed, Ferret.
I think it's worth stating that, in this case, the issue of burglary is distinct from the issue of murder:- condemning the latter is not automatically condoning the former.
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Mark the Strange Posted Aug 11, 2003
I've only just read this thread and it doesnt look like anyone has mentioned that Martin wasnt defending himself. Unless hiding and lying in wait to shoot someone in the back counts as self defence.
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Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' Posted Aug 11, 2003
Is it correct that the house was windowless and verging on derelict?
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CMaster Posted Aug 11, 2003
"I've only just read this thread and it doesnt look like anyone has mentioned that Martin wasnt defending himself. Unless hiding and lying in wait to shoot someone in the back counts as self defence."
They have.
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Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master Posted Aug 12, 2003
"Unless hiding and lying in wait to shoot someone in the back counts as self defence"
On reading the appeal judgement the pertinant issue seems to be whether or not that was what he was in fact doing.
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- 101: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Aug 9, 2003)
- 102: Mister Matty (Aug 9, 2003)
- 103: Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump (Aug 9, 2003)
- 104: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Aug 9, 2003)
- 105: Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' (Aug 9, 2003)
- 106: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Aug 9, 2003)
- 107: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Aug 11, 2003)
- 108: Geoff Taylor - Gullible Chump (Aug 11, 2003)
- 109: Mark the Strange (Aug 11, 2003)
- 110: Phryne- 'Best Suppurating Actress' (Aug 11, 2003)
- 111: CMaster (Aug 11, 2003)
- 112: Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master (Aug 12, 2003)
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