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Star Trek Question

Post 41

Ballynac

On the Worf question, Worf was believed to be the only survivor of the Kittimer massacre. That is until his brother turned up. The brother also survived the Kittimer massacre but was raised back on the Klingon homeworld. He only surfaced when the government tried to frame Worf's biological father for the treason that led to the massacre.


Star Trek Question

Post 42

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

Are you sure Worf's brother was even at Kittomer? smiley - run off to check..

smiley - ale


Star Trek Question

Post 43

Mark the Strange

Didnt Micheal Dorn play his own ancestor in The Undiscovered Country as a legal bod at Kirk and McCoy's trial?

Also, if as I do, you can equate Star Trek to US policy, Kirk was a cold war product, Picard more diplomatic, ( as in the Clinton era ) etc - then what would a Bush Star Trek look like?


Star Trek Question

Post 44

Wampus

At the risk of starting a flame war, I'd say that it would look a lot like ST: Enterprise. The captain doesn't really show any sort of abnormal intelligence or other marks that make a good leader, the voice of reason (T'Paal) is frequently disputed or ignored, there's no problem with interfering in other peoples' cultures and civilizations, and the ship's policy is set by someone who has a habit of letting his emotions get carried away in making decisions.

I saw an episode last night where the ship was without warp drive and the captain spent the entire episode being angry at a race because they made his dog sick. If I were a crewman on that ship, I'd have said something like "You mean we're stuck here, in orbit, because the captain's dog got sick from him taking it to diplomatic negotiations on an unknown planet? Is his dog more important to him than the rest of the ship?"


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Post 45

Mark the Strange

Forgot about the new series, it hasnt really registered with me yet!


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Post 46

xyroth

no, worf's brother didn't go to khitomer, but when their father was blamed, a family friend took kurn into his house as protection.


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Post 47

Ballynac

Thanks for clarification on the Worf thing. ON the new series, it hasn't really registered with me yet either but one of the reasons for that is I don't like the captain. He's constantly being all impetuous and foolhardy and acting like a bit of an idiot. I know he has ot be like that, I'm just saying I don't like him. Voyager took me a while to get into too so in time perhaps I'll love Enterprise. I never really got into DS9 though. Sounds silly but how can it be Star Trek if they're not trekking anywhere!


Star Trek Question

Post 48

Cheerful Dragon

Somebody once described the various Star Trek series (before Enterprise was screened) as follows:

Original Series: To boldly go where no man has gone before
The Next Generation: To boldly go where everyone has gone before
Deep Space 9: To boldly stay where we are
Voyager: To boldly go home

Kind of sums it all up, really.

smiley - bigeyessmiley - dragon


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Post 49

Researcher U197087

Enterprise: To boldly go without replicators, holodecks, clothes that belong in Logan's Run or any idea what they're doing.


Star Trek Question

Post 50

Ballynac

For me it's definitely one o fthe things that's lacking in Enterprise. PArt of the fun of Star Trek has been the technology! Not much fun if my kitchen is nearly more advanced than the bridge of the Enterprise.


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Post 51

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

BUt that's another thing- it doesn't look right. Those warp engine look way better than Kirk's!

smiley - ale


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Post 52

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Ballynac: Thank you, smiley - ok
I also enjoyed the film.

smiley - smiley

I might even buy it on DVD which will probably include deleted scenes, if it does I'll let you all know what Wesley did that was so bad that he ended up on the cutting floor.

Worf did play his own ancestor. His make-up was totally different but that voice is unmistakeable.
Michael Dorn is also the voice of "I am Weasel" the cartoon...

smiley - geeksmiley - flyhi

Worf's parents are his adoptive parents, as already discussed here, he also has a son Alexander who took their name (Rozhenko) as his family name. He is ΒΌ human, as his mother K'Ehleyr had a human mother and a Klingon father. The Rozhenkos also raised Alexander after the death of his mother.

Star Fleet Headquarters is in San Francisco.
The President is based in Paris, but he can be any race, not necessarily French. Captain Kirk saved the life of the President when he was at the Khitomer conference. This President was Klingon.

Does anyone remember the joke record "Star Trekkin'" one of the verses was:
smiley - musicalnote"We come in peace, shoot to kill"smiley - musicalnote
In Farscape, the 'Peacekeepers' are armed to the teeth and taught to kill from a very early age.


Star Trek Question

Post 53

Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences

I believe I even have a .wav of it on an old machine smiley - geek

smiley - ale


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Post 54

F F Churchton

This bar in Gran Canaria played it, shows the difference between fans of Star Trek in the UK & the USA!!!


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Post 55

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

The bloke who wrote it made enough money to retire to California... so I'm told smiley - smiley


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Post 56

Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

smiley - headhurts

I still have the video on one of my old music tapes.

My son loves it, especially when the Enterprise turns into a pizza with strings of sausages hanging off at the end.

Some people have smiley - weird imaginations....


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Post 57

Ballynac

That song was truly great and truly awful at the same time:

It's worse than that, he's dead Jim, dead Jim, dead Jim!

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow!

It's life Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it!

Star trekkin across the universe
On the starship enterprise, under captain kirk
star trekkin across the universe
only going forward cos we can't find reverse!


Danger: Nemesis Spoiler

Post 58

Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcups-Spurtle-and-Spoonswinner, BBC Cheese Namer & Zaphodista)

If you haven't seen Nemesis, hide your eyes and scroll down... smiley - headhurts





































Ohhhh-kayyy, then...
There's a serious timeline problem with this movie. It features Deanna Troi, along with a cameo from Kathryn Jayneway, but...

In the Deep Space Nine episode "Defiant", Will Ryker's "transporter clone", Thomas, used Miles O'Brien's involvement in the _death_ of Deanna Troi as a pretext for not talking to him. This episode was set *before* Voyager returned from the Delta Quadrant.

So, how can they both be in the same movie...? smiley - alienfrown
Now returning you to normal service...





































(Spoiler above)


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Post 59

Geggs

My memory of that DS9 ep is that Tom Riker was just staying away from O'Brien for some unspecifed reason, simply mumbling "He knows why" when O'Brien clearly had no idea what Riker was talking about. Don't recall Deanna even being mentioned.

Or if my memory is playing up and he did mention Deanna, it is quite conceivable the Tom was lying - just inventing an excuse not to talk to O'Brien, as he would, sooner or later, twig that it was Tom and not Will.


Geggs


Danger: Nemesis Spoiler

Post 60

Stealth "Jack" Azathoth

You're thinking of Worf notbeing willing to talking to Riker in in TNG's finale 'All Good Things' I suspect...


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