h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

This is following on from another thread. Not that I'm a newbie - I've been using hootoo for years and read the forums, mostly laughing my bottom off at 2legs,RF and aybee (and wondering why Wolfie hasn't been custard pie'd yet) to name but a handful.

But having been posting since last year, I've had naught but welcome messages, acceptance, tolerance (well, I am annoying)..but then I get this post of "disappointment" at the influx of "noobs".

Its only ever happened once. I'm cross. Well, I'm cross now. I wont be cross in five minutes because, well, I'm not that sad. But now I'm cross.

I thought boards liked newbies. Speshally nice ones. Ben was lovely to me when I joined in the chatter last year within moments of my posting.

You know who you are. I'm sorry if you are a LT member of considerable standing, but I'm not exactly new to..er...forums as a whole, nor hootoo in particular, and sir..well, I think your attitude is a bit..arse.

*Blows raspberry and falls off soap box*

There are some really 'sniffy' attitudes being displayed at the moment. Those doing the sniffing will be the same one's whinging in a few months time that the site has gone quiet, not like it used to be,nobody to talk to.

Lead the newbies into our way of doing things, don't tell 'em to bugger off back to where they came from.

*sniffs airscotia*

Duck eggs for tea.

I do like I do in my local. Every incomer is a potential Customer. Sometimes I pick a bad 'un, which is bad luck, but generally they are fine. There will always be a bad apple in the barrel, but communication and friendship can win over most. There are some who are past hope, but does that make them Bad People?
>>May he without sin, cast the first stone?<<

Who hasn't ed something they wished they hadn't? I am a-Religious but i do believe in Charled Kingsley's Character, DoAsYouWouldBeDoneBy, and cut a bit of slack, or just press unsubscribe.

This is a Community, and there will always be a Motley Crew amongst it. Live and let live. Put the venom away, as you would at w*rk or at home.

Is life that precious that you can get inflamed by a mere ing? Does it affect your every-day life? Well? does it? If Some poor Sucker wants to something inflammatory, will it affect your day-to-day life? your family? Your Financial Status? NO!!!!!

Be an Adult and rise above it! In fact, use your intellect to overcome it!!!

Every one uses there own welcome we dont have a standard welcome but i think they are as welcomeing as they can be

I reckon that if newbies are treated with suspicion (not something I've noticed) it's because of:

1) A fear of BBC boarders coming here with bad grammar and TXT SPK.
2) Multiple identities.

Hi all....Roy has, I think, hit the nail on the head reference multiple identities.There has to be a way of preventing name changing other than the surname part of one's nickname.I battled hard to keep my original name when I realised I had to re-register in hootoo from other boards.I do not see the point in having 2 or 3 different names, whats to hide???
As for newbies, if, as I was, you are shown the ropes early on and then take the trouble to look around and see what others are doing then I fail to see why it should be a problem to established hootoo'ers.

Straigghttalker

That is mostly the problem If (not saying alll newbies do it)some come to h2g2 to just be trouble makers and get put on pre moderation or even ban them from the site it is simple enough for them come back all they have to do is get another identitie

so if there bad and ome back under a new name they end up on the newbie list so when a Ace welcome's the new user you have to look at the name to see if there is anything identical to the (pre moderated or even baned researcher)they might not even be that researcher but becouse of one or two bad researcher there is a bit of suspition there

All newbies are given a welcome including links to get them around the site and told that if they need any more help then just to post back or even go to the Aces personal space and leave a message there some times they get back to you some times you hear nothing more from them they have desided to go it alone so all Aces can do is get on with it and if they decide to at some point to reply then the Aces can help them

you must focus your inner badger luke can't say I've noticed much in the way of suspecion against newbys in particular; I am suscribed to the welcome pages and so forth so often get messages popping up from lost people who've just found the site, and always try to help if I can or more accurately* if Lil hasn't beaten me to it already Hmm, maybe yeh, I think it is, all down to the 'reading' of what people post, I've seen cases before wehre people have been really pished off by someones particular post, yet when I've read it I've just not seen the mallace in it that is supposidly there die and let die en all or is tha live and let live If a particular researcher is really that* annoying to you, then quite why the 'you' being pished off can't just ignore that researcher is beyond me, all that happens if they don't just ignore them is that flaming and all mannor of baderisms (Ooo have I coined a new word: 'baderisms'?) rsult...... Well... asides which its probably all my fault

Intern - are you taking the p*ss? Your post made less sense than 2legs's!

thing is, some of the worst trouble makers on here aren't newbies at all, they've been here years and each seems to have its own activity cycle. There's probably a sociology thesis in there somewhere, studying the activity cycle of long term internet trolls.

As for newbies, course we love them. There are so many cults (checks spelling, yep, that's right, phew) on here that we need newbies for them to survive. And there are still lots of gaps in the guide where we need people with the relevant knowledge and drive.



And I'm shocked to learn that Motley Crue are members!

when does a newbie not be a newbie anymore and becomes an oldie...

Since i joined in July 05, i still consider myself a newbie, but have noticed a large influx of new researchers who arent necessary researchers at all, they come here to chat, which to me isnt a problem but i do feel that some get snubbed as maybe their posts arent interesting enough to get a reponse...the 'Any one facy a chat' thread is like a graveyard now and that used to be a very busy and exciting thread.

Newbies officially lose that status once the Governing Council of H2G2 has decided so. Each month they meet at the towers to review the list of newbies and see who has shown the correct behaviour to be welcomed into full guide membership.

This opens up new areas of the guide (such as the Temple of Nighthoover) as well as conferring certain rights of status at the meets. It also allows one to use the full keyboard when posting.

Note. There are rumoured to be several levels above mere 'member', and there are also various splinter groups which have a degree of unofficial status and have been known to influence the running of the site from behind the scenes.

Having read this you will now have to be shot.
Sorry.

BK....I have only been a member since Oct. 05, so I consider myself a newbie still.I have tried to enter into the spirit of the site by having a mix of fun,banter, article writing and other such like activities.I always try to check if a thread on a particular theme is in existence before posting new threads.
I take the point you make re. the anyone for a chat thread, to me it was an open topic chat thread but when I and other friends used it along with other hootoo'ers it caused a rift to such an extent that my ace opened a new thread completely seperate.It was a solution at the time but the fact is, as you mention, it has become a graveyard which proved my point at the time that we were at least using it for the purpose intended.Bearing in mind researchers who work or have other things to do it was inevitable that the thread would see peak times,that is the nature of the beast.

ps. there is a 24/7 any topic chat thread at A8669640 anyone welcome!!

BK - the 'Chat' threads have killed by the relentless irrelevance/triviality of a well known individual. Those threads were great fun, but all the fun people have unsubbed and gone to their journals, which newbies won;t know about. It's a shame newbies can't see how good this place is without the .

, in addition to apologising for the typos, I should point that there are still some interesting people in the chat threads but a lot of us don't see them because we've unsubbed to avoid the .

Agree Roy, but how do the newbies meet new people on here if they have no friends list or dont really know anyone yet, they wont even know about journals......the amount of times i have seen new names and then never see them again, they just dont bother coming back

That's exactly why people gang up on our mutual aquaintance. We shouldn't have to unsub from the fun threads that interest newbies but we've a choice of unsub or ridicule. Ignore is another option but has limited life.

Blimey Roy, for someone who drunk loads last night, you still make sense now...how do you do it