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Post 4121

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Argh! just *don't* go saying 'season'...

Blame it on pre-meet, h2g2 bidet excitement.


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Post 4122

U7600750 Banned alt ID 4

SPOILER


I see from my TV guide that tonight, there are problems for the daleks when their human/dalek hybrid starts getting in touch with its emotions.
I am getting an extra large vomit bucket in preparation for this eventuality.


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Post 4123

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Sky info buttons says ' the doctor enters into an unholy alliance'.

Just how upset do you think the other daleks are at Sec's actions? smiley - lighthousesmiley - lighthousesmiley - lighthousesmiley - tardis


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Post 4124

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Get on....

That was much better.

I smiley - loveed the bit where the Darlek just slayed Soloman. Proper full on Dalek.

I also liked the whole Dr getting his hopes up about there being some otgher time lordy types. A slice of what is to come perhaps?


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Post 4125

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

Is it just me or is anyone else getting slightly fed up with Preachy Doctor Angst?

Admittedly this episode was slightly better than last weeks but it still wasn't as good as dalek episodes of old, I can't see many kids hiding behind the sofa these days.

while the saving of Lazlo was nice it was a bit predictible, I think if he'd have kicked the bucket I'd have reacted a bit more, but I just thought "Yeah, the Doctor will save him".

I know Dr Who is sci fi and he's invincible but credibility was stretched a little thin with the whole lightning-strike-timelord-DNA-mixing-with-dalek-DNA thing was too much, I mean there was a time when radiation poisoning caused a Doctor to regenerate, now he can withstand a gamma radiation strike. I have to admit I did wonder if he's turn into the Hulk, but that's me being silly.

all in all, it was better but not much


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Post 4126

JulesK

It wasn't that good for me either.

Yeah, the confusion over what the Doctor was doing in the lab was intriguing - ie was he actually trying to help or hinder them? I thought, no come on, he's got a plan, then it turned out he hadn't and it was the other daleks who changed the formula not him. So there was that bit of 'hang on, what's he doing helping Sec?' going on.

Overall though it all got a bit silly hanging on the mast. Maybe I'm just a grown-up, I dunno.

Surprised at his letting the final dalek go, though, that was interesting.

At the end I yelled at the TV ' Martha, stop trying so hard, love!' - she's too keen too quickly I feel. They're using her crush to talk about Rose and it's all a bit fast. But then if the Doctor looks like David Tennant to her too....smiley - winkeye

Julessmiley - smiley


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Post 4127

Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic.

Not much improvement on last week, to be honest.

Okay so the Daleks got untethered - this was good - only to be exterminated themselves shortly afterwards. (incidentally, I am alone if finding the whole spectacle of them appearing on stage with a manacled Sec (wasn't he chained to the wall a moment ago?) was just a little bit too theartreish and staged?) Deus ex Machina - just a little bit. smiley - lighthousesmiley - lighthouse

I concede to Jim Lynn that the mast wasn't for Communication - but what's with this army of human daleks; Time lord = freedom claptrap? No I'm sorry it just didn't work for me. smiley - erm

Why? Why? Why? - if that's what the Timelords were like as neighbours, it's no wonder the daleks exterminated them! (smiley - winkeye)

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I was rather interested in this idea that the daleks have been depleted down to one, which mirrors the doctor as the last time Lord. I can only hope that this is heading towards the finalé when it comes, and that whomever it is that the Dr "isn't alone" with, is going to be some sort of tipping point between him and the daleks and maybe a little more explication regarding the time war.

I think that only because, little else seemed to be accomplished in this episode - The very last Dalek Emergency Temporal Shifts out of trouble - just as Sec and the Skaro Cult did in Doomsday. So whatever the writers are up to, they've engineered a way to have the Daleks in a place they couldn't get to the last time they time-jumped because now their number is reduced down to 1 not 4. I suggest that is what will be significant going forward.

Also Sec's empty tank-shell is still in the basement of the Empire State Building. After Human Sec stepped out, it was lingering in the background. And now with the other two daleks dead and Kahn off Time traveling it's still there I assume.

I suggest that was probably an oversight though, and not significant.

Confidential was pretty woeful to if one was hoping to understand the episode any better - being mostly concerned with how they achieved the miracle of shooting New York from a Cardiff car park and leisure centre.

All in all I hope next week is better - and the trailer seemed promising. smiley - smiley Which one of the League of Gentlemen was that I spotted in a latex mask and wig?


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Post 4128

JulesK

I thought I spotted someone a lot closer to proceedings, probably wrong, nuff said smiley - winkeye


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Post 4129

Traveller in Time Reporting Bugs -o-o- Broken the chain of Pliny -o-o- Hired

Traveller in Time smiley - tit a little empathic
"NO Genocide !

There were already _Two_ species extinct in the last day,


He just lost thousands of partly timelords, the high intelligent part of the humans captured by the Daleks. Though their mind was empty and commands were easy issued, they were learning fast.

Cheers for Martha, she created the technical weapon, normaly the Deus Ex of the Doctor. How about her remark; 'There is also a service elevator !' ? She has read the diagrams correct and even used the information. "


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Post 4130

huzzah4knolly

The last remaining Dalek is going to be pretty week now though, after a 2nd temporal shift. They had already lost their shielding against projectile weapons.

Also what about the bits of Dalek casing on top of the Empire State, surely soemone is going to find it and ship it off to the the military just in time for World War II.

All in all enjoyable two episodes but must be time for some real nasty Daleks to return.

Favourite bit : The Dalek "looking over his shoulder" when discussing what to do with Sec. smiley - laugh


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Post 4131

Alfster

The best bit in any Dr Who for the past few years:

The shots of the pigs in the lift waiting to get up to where the Dr was.

The nonchalant way some were looking at their feet and one was looking at the dial watching their progress. Best bit of observational direction I have seen in a while.

Almost beats the lift shots in Ghostbusters and the Blues Brothers.


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Post 4132

Mol - on the new tablet

I assure you, children were hiding behind sofas smiley - biggrin

We found the Dalek looking over his shoulder incredibly funny. And all howled NOOOOOO when it looked like a Dalek was going to get a lift in the Tardis.

And I said, they'll have timelord DNA in them then as the lightning blasted through the Doc.

So it could have been worse ...

Mol


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Post 4133

U7600750 Banned alt ID 4

How did they know the lightning would strike just as the door for the lift full of pigs opened?


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Post 4134

eloisa

'Lift full of pigs.'!!!!!!!!

smiley - laugh

(sorry)


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Post 4135

Reefgirl (Brunel Baby)

I must admit I did like the Pigs in the lift all looking at the floor counter


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Post 4136

Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am...

I'm confused... how exactly did the Doctor hugging the antenna result in the human-Dalek army getting injected with Timelord DNA? I can suspend my disbelief with the best of 'em but that's not even *bad* science!


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Post 4137

The Apprentice

"Which one of the League of Gentlemen was that I spotted in a latex mask and wig?"

That was Mark Gatiss, the only Doctor Who writer to have also starred in a Who episode (or something to that effect).

I ultimately found this two-parter disappointing - and found the second episode rushed, misguided and ill-considered. Certainly an instance where the old Who format of several episodes might have worked better.

I found Sec's death annoying - especially given the Daleks were shooting at the Doctor several metres away and yet managed to both hit Sec, who was much closer and couldn't possibly have take both bolts given the angles involved. Did the Daleks lose the Time War due to myopic gunnery?

Dalek Khan will probably have only enough power to keep his eye-stalk lit up, like someone else pointed out. Two temporal shifts when the Doctor seemed surprised they'd had enough power for one and keep going at almost full functionality.

smiley - erm I sincerely hope that we don't see Khan again this season and they give the Daleks a rest until Season Four. I think they got a little tired already...

The Apprentice


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Post 4138

The Apprentice

Oh... and the lightning thing. Given a bad fall caused the fourth Doctor to regenerate and a daft operating theatre cock-up killed the seventh... how could the tenth pull through a full one gamma radiation/lightning strike? Gah!

smiley - wah

The Apprentice


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Post 4139

Blackberry Cat , if one wishes to remain an individual in the midst of the teeming multitudes, one must make oneself grotesque

Disappointing pair of episodes
Not quite up to the usually fairly good standard of new Dr Who IMO
Enough Daleks for now I think

As for cleavage shots in Dr Who back when Leela was the assistant there were plenty


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Post 4140

The Apprentice

Did I miss a cleavage shot? Did Peri make a guest appearance?

"Peri! Quick... the Daleks are coming! Get your bikini on!" - Erroneous Quote from the Fifth Doctor

The Apprentice


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