A Conversation for Talking Point: 11 September, 2001
The american thing
Mister Matty Posted Oct 13, 2002
"Again,an ex-american president is being awarded with the "peace" Nobel price..."
That'll be Jimmy Carter, a decent man who has done a great deal for world peace (not least bringing Egypt and Israel together in 1980).
It says a lot about some people here that they see the word "American" and assume they're some sort of Kissinger-esque warmonger.
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Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 13, 2002
Would that be the same president that was in Cuba earlier campagning to have the sanctions lifted? Radio news introduced him as the most unpopular president since world war two.
The american thing
Mister Matty Posted Oct 13, 2002
"Would that be the same president that was in Cuba earlier campagning to have the sanctions lifted? Radio news introduced him as the most unpopular president since world war two."
Carter is pretty unpopular with Americans due to his fumbling of the Iranian hostage crisis. He was President during an economic downturn too which people tend to blame on the government, even though the country is a free-market economy and thus is barely controlled by the state. Making conciletory gestures towards Castro wouldn't be popular with a lot of American's too.
Despite all this, he's been a very effective peace envoy and he seems a committed, concerned and decent man. That's what he won the nobel peace prize for.
The american thing
fablefilou Posted Oct 13, 2002
Carter is a very good man and has done his best even if he was,during seven years of his life,an officer under the tough but inspirational Captain Hyman Rickover in the Navy’s first experimental nuclear submarine. (Rickover was later to become an admiral, and build America’s nuclear submarine force.).He talked about developing the alternative energies to the fossil fuels but didn't do much to help them and quickly prefered to act as a "peacemaker" in the middle east in order to keep the oil price down or at least stable.It seems that the US are now in a situation of no return where they have become so dependant of the oil resources that their government can't see any other solution than finding new ways of colonisation.I should call it the "Bushway".
Now,think at all these innocent american people reading that the peace nobel prize is going to Carter,ex-american president.What will be their first thought?Great!That proves that the US is THE peacemaker in the world and the Bush administration can only be right when bombing Afghanistan or Irak.BUT that will certainly be thought without realising that Carter won it because of his TALKINGS not his BOMBING!
I love america and the american.My only concern is the fact that he is a former US president!
Why when out-of-office
Apparition™ (Mourning Empty the best uncle anyone could wish for) Posted Oct 13, 2002
"I love america and the american.My only concern is the fact that he is a former US president!"
Not just American, but, whay is it that people do good things *after* being in office? Is it someing they see/experience while in office?
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 14, 2002
Frpm what I remember, he's a pretty decent person, which is *why* he'd be unpopular with certain segments of the American population! He was always referred to as the 'peanut farmer from Georgia'. Which reminds me, did y'all know that Gene Roddenberry was related to the famous Rodenberry's (not the 1 'd') peanut butter company, also of Georgia? I learned that from Gene's biography by David Alexander.
Why do some people hate Americans?
AlexoOo Posted Apr 3, 2003
Maybe the Socialist Worker?
I believe that is still on sale in certain places.
Why do some people hate Americans?
DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Apr 9, 2003
I expect you're right, TD. You know, Syria is next... They're working their way up to it as we speak...
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