A Conversation for Talking Point: 11 September, 2001
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Researcher 184122 Posted Sep 12, 2001
HOW CAN YOU BATTLE AN ENEMY WHO HAS NO VALUE FOR HIS OWN OR OTHERS LIFE??
How can yu fight an enemy who not only isn't afraid of death but is longing for it?
The solution is though. The recieving party let it be the US., Israel, Russia etc. must be willing to take harsh methodes to use.
What does a terrorist care most about? - His people and the honor.
It should be communicated to all potential terrorist that does he/her decide to take their life in a terrorist action, the retaliation will be on their FAMILY! Which results in that it is not only his/her own life his is taking, but his mother, father, wife, son, daughter, brother, sister and so on.
This is a though solution. But consider the alternative - a lot of martyr's...
I'm a peace loving citizen, but I against the wall and so are we all!
Peace and Gud speed to us all.
Alex
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Researcher 184122 Posted Sep 12, 2001
HOW CAN YOU BATTLE AN ENEMY WHO HAS NO VALUE FOR HIS OWN OR OTHERS LIFE??
How can yu fight an enemy who not only isn't afraid of death but is longing for it?
The solution is though. The recieving party let it be the US., Israel, Russia etc. must be willing to take harsh methodes to use.
What does a terrorist care most about? - His people and the honor.
It should be communicated to all potential terrorist that does he/her decide to take their life in a terrorist action, the retaliation will be on their FAMILY! Which results in that it is not only his/her own life his is taking, but his mother, father, wife, son, daughter, brother, sister and so on.
This is a though solution. But consider the alternative - a lot of martyr's...
I'm a peace loving citizen, but I against the wall and so are we all!
Peace and Gud speed to us all.
Alex
Terrorist Attacks - from egypt - Modus Operandum
Nizan Posted Sep 12, 2001
Why is it so hard to believe that it was only done by Arabs? Try this one:
Osama bin Laden is said to be worth US$250 million. Is it not feasible that he could have paid for:
-the training of 8 people as Airline pilots? Once fully trained they would have joined a team with 2 to 4 other men.
-the training of this team in, what they would term, crowd control and how to over power a plane.
-20 or so airline tickets for the planes that were involved.
-Knives don't have to be metal. I have seen toughened plastic knives slice in to meat like a hot knife through butter.
-Garrotting can be done using fishing wire
The last part of the equation is brain washing. These men, like many young Palestinians are taught to believe that it is the word of Allah to rid the evil from the holy land. Basically move America out of Saudia Arabia. The Fatawah issued by bin Laden in 98 does not differentiate between civilian or military westerns. In the eyes of the Islamic fundamentalist we are all the same. These men would believe that they would go to a better place in heaven after this courageous act. I doubt that the even brole sweat!
I believe that Osama bin Laden ('arabs' as you put it) are completely capable of this act.
Nizan
Terrorist Attacks - from egypt - Modus Operandum
Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Sep 12, 2001
I still hold that it is far too early for anyone to engage in the sort of speculation that seek to apportion blame to *any* group.
That will come, but I would strongly caution anyone here to concentrate on joining with us to pay our respects to those injured or killed yesterday, their families and friends.
clive
Terrorist Attacks - from egypt - Modus Operandum
Frankie Roberto Posted Sep 12, 2001
Let's just hope that this doesn't esculate into more tradgedy.
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Researcher 184278 Posted Sep 12, 2001
As much as we all sympathise with all Americans over this atrocity, will they ever understand that the IRA have done this to we 'Brits' repeatedly since 1916, and especially over the last 35 years. A lot of their funds came from America.....do the people who funded them understand that all terrorism against any democracy must be outlawed, or are they going to continue their donations ???
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Researcher 184400 Posted Sep 12, 2001
After this dreadful act of wanton destruction, which fell so far outside of my experience of "how the world works", I fear for what might happen next. I hope that Bush will be able to gather information before any action is taken and not run around like a dog stung by a wasp, biting everyone in the vicinity
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Researcher 184398 Posted Sep 12, 2001
My friend from west you forgot something :
For two months at least every plane of NATO send their BOMBS, to
the serbian people (men,women,children).
In this case noone of the scumbs of «sivilised» people talk.
NOW IN EUROPE WE POSTPONED OUR ACTIVITIES , BECAUSE OF THE TRAGIC DEATH.
I´ DONT FILL HAPPY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIE, BUT THE SERBS THEY AREN´T PEOPLE ;
WHAT CAN SAY ABOUT THAT, THE SCUMB TONY BLAIR ; NOTHING. AND HIS SPEECH ABOUT FREE DEMOCRASY WORLD IS YPOKRITIK AND LIES.
WE DON´T WANT THE CIVILATION OF TERRORISTS BUT
, WE DON´T WANT EITHER PEOPLE LIKE BLAIR , BUSH.....
WHAT CAN SAY AN ALKHOLIK PRESIDENT LIKE BUSH ;
IF THE BOSSES OF BUSH WANT REVENGE , THEY CAN LOOOK TO THEIR FACES .
WE WANT PEACE AND WORLD WITHOUT TREATS AND VIOLENCE.
NOW PALAISTINE, TOMORROW BEOGRAD , WHAT´S NEXT ;
READ ABOUT ANCIENT DEMOCRASY OF ATHENS. the TOWN OF ATHENS WAS
THE SUPERPOWER IN GREECE, AND THIS PERIOD OF HISTORY THEY BURN MANY ISLANDS (SLAVES) , WHO HAVENT THE SAME POLICY.
BUT THE ROMANS REACH IN ATHENS .
IN GREEK LANGUAGE WE HAVE A WORD WHO EXPLIANS THE HIT ; ALAZONIA. IT MEANS WHEN A MAN ( OR A STATE IN OUR CASE) , WHO DID NOT CARE ABOUT THE OTHER PEOPLE.
IF SOMEONE HAVE ALAZONIA SOON OR LATER , HE HAS A ANSWER.
AMERICA HAVE THE ANSWER WITH A TRAGIC WAY.
THE WARS MUST STOP, AND THE ALAZONIA OF THE GOVERMENTS IN WEST MUST STOP.
DIMITRIOS - GREECE
L.W THE MATCH (TODAY) BETWEEN OLYMPIAKOS- MAN. UNITED POSTPONED, LIKE OTHER ACTIVITIES.
WHY ; WHEN NATO BOMBING SERBIA IT´ GOOD ;
IN THIS CASE WHY CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCH DIDNT POSTPONED ;
WHY ;
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
taliesin Posted Sep 12, 2001
Hello Researcher 184398
First of all, please don't 'shout' Posting in CAPITAL LETTERS IS RUDE
Second of all, this is not the time for political or ideological ranting
And this particular discussion is about the 'modus operandum', or 'method' used by the terrorists who perpetrated this crime.
At another time, and in a different discussion, please feel free to state your political, religious and ideological views. Just refrain from doing it now.
One more thing, please try to avoid insulting others, whether they are members of our h2g2 community or not. Personal insults are not a very effective way of communicating anything other than anger and hatred.
Peace
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) Posted Sep 13, 2001
In response to Dimitrios:
Any ideology that advocates death as a means of delivering a political message is not one I care to associate with.
I've heard some interesting speculation about the targets of the four planes. Rumor has it that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was originally intended for the White House. Some say that the hijackers missed the White House, and headed for the Pentagon instead; others are saying that they found out that Bush wasn't in Washington at all, and decided to take out the Pentagon instead. If he had been in the White House, and had been evacuated, then he would have been flown to Camp David, which is where they're saying the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was headed.
Recently I heard the story of the stewardess who managed to get a 911 phone call through... She was able to give the seat number of one of the hijackers to EMS. They found his car at the Boston airport, and several flight manuals in Arabic inside.
Terrorist Attacks - Modus Operandum
taliesin Posted Sep 13, 2001
Thanks for that info, Lentilla. I was wondering how the investigators got on to that rental car so quickly..
I hope the evidence they are getting are good leads
Peace
Key: Complain about this post
Removed
- 41: Researcher 184125 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 42: Researcher 184125 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 43: Researcher 184122 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 44: Researcher 184122 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 45: Researcher 184125 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 46: Researcher 184125 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 47: Researcher 184125 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 48: Nizan (Sep 12, 2001)
- 49: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Sep 12, 2001)
- 50: Frankie Roberto (Sep 12, 2001)
- 51: Researcher 184278 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 52: Researcher 184400 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 53: Researcher 184400 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 54: Researcher 184398 (Sep 12, 2001)
- 55: Frankie Roberto (Sep 12, 2001)
- 56: taliesin (Sep 12, 2001)
- 57: Lentilla (Keeper of Non-Sequiturs) (Sep 13, 2001)
- 58: taliesin (Sep 13, 2001)
More Conversations for Talking Point: 11 September, 2001
Write an Entry
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a wholly remarkable book. It has been compiled and recompiled many times and under many different editorships. It contains contributions from countless numbers of travellers and researchers."