h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Firstly may I thank you for your thoughtful reply.

>> You know this Earth is polluted by the refuse of characters like you.

What I actually meant here was refuse as turn down rather than refuse as in waste.

>> I suspect that the main difference between us is that I base my pessimism on logic, economics, sociological indicators and some understanding of realpolitik, and you arrive at similar conclusions through intuition and metaphor. It may feel like external spiritual revelation. It may even *be* external spiritual revelation, but I - personally - doubt that.

>> Are you saying that half of the people on the planet have souls and the other half don't?

See Above?

>> Nostradamus was first, last and above all else a self-publicist. He may have been sincere. He may have been a cynical liar. But just because he said he had a cure does not mean that he did.

michel de nostredame, is an anagram of Alchemist (de) Moderne.
st michael is an anagram of Alchemist
Albert Abraham Michelson (nobel prize winner ... formulated the speed of Light ... Work with Morley enabled the Theory of Relativity) is an anagram of Nobler Alchemist Abraham.

I'm not sure what I am trying to explain you here; but any able statistician would explain you that the odds for the existence of such anagrams is staggering. I can tell you that Abraham (an anagram of Brahama) stole , from the Sumerian Culture a prehistoric technology that enables Spirit control of the body at the expense of the Soul.

You are at least aware that many are they who have tried to point the human race in the correct direction. As I have tried to say elsewhere I come from the angle of an Artist. I do not arrive at conclusions about anything. You must have realised that my writing ability is rubbish. My great difficulty is trying to present in literal terms what are for me "extra-mental" images.

>> I have had some dealings with people who claim to channel external spiritual sources. While I have never come across anyone who was not sincere, I have equally never come across anyone who channelled something which they did not already know or which they had not already been exposed to. In other words, all of the channnels I have come across have, in my opinion, been channeling their own subconscious. What is interesting is that there often is a lot of instinctive truth and wisdom in what they say. The subconscious has an ability to cut the crap and present things in a very emotional and powerful way. But there is never any meat, never any real substance. Never anything new.

Honest, I would not lie to you: I am not sure what you mean by "channelling". I avoid what is decribable as Spirit influence because that energy, as my writings explain, is ultimately harmful. Because the activities of Mankind are as harmful to the 'friendly' Spiritual spectrum as to Soul Life it does not surprise me that Life would wish to somehow communicate for the cause of the [Holy?] Spirit as well as the Soul; but actually it is the Soul, which Life seeks to preserve. It is Life that communicates through me not my sub-conscious.

Please forgive me I have limited time presently and I have other responses to answer etc; however I am grateful for the interesting questions you raised and I would welcome further correspondence with you.

my email address is available via
http://www.flickr.com/photos/st-ward

If I have in anyway offended you or left you with a bad feeling I am sorry for that

'stward, adventer' is an anagram of 'warted, vast nerd'.

What are the odds against that, eh?

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Skankyrich: how does anyone ho;ld a conversation with a person who describes themselves so chic like. Are you a golden brown user?

Lets try ...

>You know this Earth is polluted by the refuse of characters like you.

here refuse is set equal to deny, not to waste - as you seem to have read it. One of those times when you need to read what is meant not what you think is meant?

>>It is. In fact, I see no reason to believe that you make any sense to anyone but yourself, and even less reason to spend hours reading self-aggrandising rubbish written in a state of delusion.

I keep trying to explain to people that I work with images. Of course how I write is rubbish; however what I write is true. You might label me deluded but those who know and have met me do not hold the same view. You would be surprised I feel. I am so ordinary, so down to Earth you are very likely to be consoling rather than ridiculing.

>> No, it was intense water evaporation in the Tropics, condensing and releasing large amounts of latent heat into the atmosphere. If this low pressure can sustain winds above 75mph, it becomes a hurricane rather than a tropical storm. In a nutshell.

Yes, thats a very human summation of how CREATION jollies up storms into hurricanes; not to mention all the other natural phenomena CREATION creates. I tried in Adventer to explain how Spirit works ... you obviously did not hear what was being explained.

>> Don't be silly.

??? I think that you need to rethink how you approach this type of discussion; a statement like the above is hardly likely to improve your understanding and besides stifles free speech; your not a new labour waller are you? ... 'my imaging foresaw the shape of the destructer' i make images which 'see' the future, even the past. Its not that unusual a gift; if such things cause you embarrassment, or if you can not acceptt that their exist senses over and above those that are obvious, then please find your Saturday night entertainment elsewhere.

>> I tend to watch the news; it's more reliable.

Oh ... and what or who is responsible for making the news, answer not longer than the 100 page bible please?

>> You don't have to, no, but if you did it would sound less like gobbledigook.

OK, I accept you challenge ... Here is how I work. I do not eat meat nor products of Life. I practice meditation with movement. I do not produce images on demand; and will never produce art if unhappy. I accept virilty as normal (very Egyptian). I don't discount anything - everything has a ring of truth to it: Creation enables me to know true from truth. For example, in hte beginning was the word is truth, but it is not true. Will you understand that I wonder?

>> You have read a lot of Nostradamus, haven't you? This sounds to me like an existential halfway house; you can't decide in yourself if you would like to be part of the world or not, so are deciding for yourself which bits you like. Or you're making it up as you go along.

Actually no I haven't. I have posted elsewhere an interesting observsation, that his name in french ... michel de nostredame is an anagram of - alchemist de moderne - af act which is of interest to this Adventer as it acts as a pointer to the target. Otherwise Nostredame, as was is of very little interest to me. Let us say we are diametrically opposite, that one and I.

>> Oh, go on, get smart. Is it the second? The sixth? Who cares? Funny how these things come in sevens, isn't it? Perhaps you could break the news to the fourth Adventer that earthquakes are usually caused by continental plates scraping together as one subducts. He or she had better get down the Jobcentre, eh?

What causes the one to subduct?
All divine things are described in sevens, but you do you care?

>> Really, why don't you pop out for a beer or something, and try to relax? I'm sure you've got loads of wonderfully interesting and clever stuff to say, but Adventer isn't it. I'm sure the other six would manage just fine if you told them you'd found something sensible to think about

I'd like to go out and have a beer with you skankyrich; I am sure I would learn something, but then again the very reason the adventers are raised up is to do with people becoming pissed and urinating all over Earth [the book of revelations, something I wrote earlier, describes them as dogs - look at the very last page].

I arrange for you a nice big event ... very soon; meantime thank you for you write me. Please be patient with my writing. I keep trying to explain, I art?

Thank you for that ... this is indeed an intersting thread ... and maybe it get even more interesting; we try make it so.

>> If you can't see that this 'series' doesn't belong in the Edited Guide than you really are missing something.

As I read elsewhere at least one person has noticed that I have not attempted to post this series in the edited guide of late. Indeed only 'Adventer I' was offerd up and actually, I must confess that was a purely accidental thing. You might have already guessed that I am not one of the surest users of h2g2.

I apologise if you got a headache reading it; but look a headache is far better than extinction.

I be blunt with you. We human beings have Souls and our Soul selves is under the very real threat of eternal extinction.

Human Beings have gone beyond Biblical: by which I mean that the writings of those texts regarded as holy have literally been usurped by events.

It is true that hte revelation of st-john had sight of this time: however that revelation was incomplete in one major respect. The Adventer series is set out to redress this problem in real time. It is not a scripture to study and its message is far too ugly to some how write out in nicey nicey American style.

Besides, and please do not get me wrong, I do not put you or any one else kind enought to contribute to this thread, down; but the fact is Adventer is not meant for mass reading, It is bait, no more and no less. As stated elsewhere the task of this Adventer is to confront the dark one.

>> 'stward, adventer' is an anagram of 'warted, vast nerd'

Wow well done " Master B - Vote Gnomon A5663702! A sensible man for a silly post" {hope you don't mind if I don't blow a gasket trying to work out what thats an anagram of; I can see a couple of words already like goon, for example, but I am sure there has got to be more to you name than that.

by the way my name is steven ward; Adventer is an anagram of my name minus my initials. Events Draw is an anagram of my full name.

Good to hear from you.

>> I struggled my way through the series and have been following everyone's comments with interest. It's good to see it's not just me that's struggling with it!

Well thats two of us brother ... and I'm the author. But listen double to you for trying to read it. You diamond. tHANK yOU.

I'm unsubbing. If I wanted to read three incomprehensible posts in a row I'd go talk to Wolfie.

>> People who like stward's 'unique' style might want to have a look at similar pieces on this page - A938225. Indeed I thought he was on there at one point.

Cheers Sprout, I checked it out and must admit I thought ... you know that may or may not be one of the other Adventers (spelt Adventors there at A938225 [is that the American way i wondered?] , which is curious because from time to time I use the same spelling my self).

Got to be honest though, I didn't read all things there cos time limited. Will look asap; but it cheered me to know that there is someone out there with a unique style more unique than that you attribute to me.

as is events ward?

sorry to lose you "uncharted666 - But why is the rum gone?". Your contribution to this messy thread, which aspires to save Souls, has been invaluable.

hope you god goes with you

>Are you a golden brown user?

Yes, two spoons of demerara in every coffee. Why?

>here refuse is set equal to deny, not to waste - as you seem to have read it. One of those times when you need to read what is meant not what you think is meant?

Yes, my eyes refuse to read as every sentence appears utter twaddle. Next.


>I keep trying to explain to people that I work with images. Of course how I write is rubbish; however what I write is true. You might label me deluded but those who know and have met me do not hold the same view. You would be surprised I feel. I am so ordinary, so down to Earth you are very likely to be consoling rather than ridiculing.

I'm glad to be of assistance. And I'm sure the people you've met who say you aren't deluded are just being polite.


>>No, it was intense water evaporation in the Tropics, condensing and releasing large amounts of latent heat into the atmosphere. If this low pressure can sustain winds above 75mph, it becomes a hurricane rather than a tropical storm. In a nutshell.
>Yes, thats a very human summation of how CREATION jollies up storms into hurricanes; not to mention all the other natural phenomena CREATION creates. I tried in Adventer to explain how Spirit works ... you obviously did not hear what was being explained.

No, really, thats how they start.


>> Don't be silly.

>I think that you need to rethink how you approach this type of discussion; a statement like the above is hardly likely to improve your understanding and besides stifles free speech; your not a new labour waller are you? ... 'my imaging foresaw the shape of the destructer' i make images which 'see' the future, even the past. Its not that unusual a gift; if such things cause you embarrassment, or if you can not acceptt that their exist senses over and above those that are obvious, then please find your Saturday night entertainment elsewhere.

Right. Lets take that apart, eh?

>I think that you need to rethink how you approach this type of discussion;

How about giving us some hardcore facts instead of your funny little dreams for a start?

>a statement like the above is hardly likely to improve your understanding and besides stifles free speech; your not a new labour waller are you?

No, I was telling you not to be silly. You were being quite ridiculous, to be fair. You see nothing of the future except the growth of your own ego. And you can say what you like; I just think it's silly. Also it should be 'you're' and 'wallah'. I vote for local candidates who have my hometown at heart, though I fail to see where politics come into it. I thought we were discussing your mad fantasy world here?

>my imaging foresaw the shape of the destructer' i make images which 'see' the future, even the past. Its not that unusual a gift; if such things cause you embarrassment, or if you can not acceptt that their exist senses over and above those that are obvious, then please find your Saturday night entertainment elsewhere.

No, you didn't foresee 'the shape of the destructer'. How preposterous and pretentious! What are you trying to say, you saw the shape of suicide bombers as having two arms and two legs? We all see images of the past but choose to call them 'photographs' or 'paintings', so I agree it's not unusual.

Incidentally, my 'Saturday night entertainment' consists of having intelligent dialogue with intelligent people on intelligent subjects on a site called 'h2g2'. I write for the Edited Guide, scout for the Edited Guide, and sub for the Edited Guide. I do this most nights. I don't pretend to be some visionary seer whose response to criticism is 'go away'. I tend to make sense to those who read my words. I certainly don't criticise other users without foundation.



>> I tend to watch the news; it's more reliable.

>Oh ... and what or who is responsible for making the news, answer not longer than the 100 page bible please?

People who are there, not people who have had a funny turn and think they've seen it.



>> You don't have to, no, but if you did it would sound less like gobbledigook.

>OK, I accept you challenge ... Here is how I work. I do not eat meat nor products of Life. I practice meditation with movement. I do not produce images on demand; and will never produce art if unhappy. I accept virilty as normal (very Egyptian). I don't discount anything - everything has a ring of truth to it: Creation enables me to know true from truth. For example, in hte beginning was the word is truth, but it is not true. Will you understand that I wonder?

You fall down in the second sentence. Plants not products of Life? I understand the rest as normal human behaviour, except the comment that virility is 'very Egyptian' - most of us would find virility as normal but comparing oneself to the ancient Egyptians very pretentious.



>> You have read a lot of Nostradamus, haven't you? This sounds to me like an existential halfway house; you can't decide in yourself if you would like to be part of the world or not, so are deciding for yourself which bits you like. Or you're making it up as you go along.

>Actually no I haven't. I have posted elsewhere an interesting observsation, that his name in french ... michel de nostredame is an anagram of - alchemist de moderne - af act which is of interest to this Adventer as it acts as a pointer to the target. Otherwise Nostredame, as was is of very little interest to me. Let us say we are diametrically opposite, that one and I.

I'm sure your observation is very interesting . Diametrically opposite to a 16th century seer, eh? Very challenging.

I also made the point here about your existential self, which you have avoided.



>> Oh, go on, get smart. Is it the second? The sixth? Who cares? Funny how these things come in sevens, isn't it? Perhaps you could break the news to the fourth Adventer that earthquakes are usually caused by continental plates scraping together as one subducts. He or she had better get down the Jobcentre, eh?

>What causes the one to subduct?

One is heavier than the other.



>All divine things are described in sevens, but you do you care?

Holy Trinity, anyone?



>> Really, why don't you pop out for a beer or something, and try to relax? I'm sure you've got loads of wonderfully interesting and clever stuff to say, but Adventer isn't it. I'm sure the other six would manage just fine if you told them you'd found something sensible to think about

>I'd like to go out and have a beer with you skankyrich; I am sure I would learn something, but then again the very reason the adventers are raised up is to do with people becoming pissed and urinating all over Earth [the book of revelations, something I wrote earlier, describes them as dogs - look at the very last page].

I don't think I'll take you up on the offer of a sociable drink, I'm sure it would be very dull indeed. However, the line 'the adventers are raised up is to do with people becoming pissed and urinating all over Earth' is surely something we see too often in our streets. Perhaps it is something you can sell to the AA? I'm also fairly sure the Bookl of Revelations isn't something you 'wrote earlier' either.


>I arrange for you a nice big event ... very soon; meantime thank you for you write me. Please be patient with my writing. I keep trying to explain, I art?

Oooh, sounds nice! Will there be candyfloss? And balloons? Maybe a big wheel? Why should I be patient with your writing when every sentence is , anyway?

Regards

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How about:
Non-fissionable malevolent smarty-boots rampages.

Or:
Venomless lobotomy antagonises rampant barflies.

Both of which make exactly as much sense as your Nostradamus anagrams.

Or as much sense as the Adventer.

Makes even more sense than his anagram...

"his name in french ... michel de nostredame is an anagram of - alchemist de moderne"

Firstly, "Alchemist de moderne" doesn't actually mean anything in French...
Secondly, The word 'Alchemist' is written in French as 'Alchimiste', so not only is your anagram meaningless, but it also makes as much sense of saying the words 'George W Bush' are an anagram for 'Really Sensible Intelligent Guy' and thus all Americans should vote for him!

If you can't get the basics right in your theories, how do you expect people to even consider the rest?

Oh dear, I guessed there would be a reaction. Even my typihng errors get a mauling. The energy in all of the above was umm, startling.

I'll do my best, but I,m not going to answer to it all; however there are one or two items which really need tpo be clarified, so that f we ever do share that drink those things may be set aside.

I went through awhole load of stuff before I came to this. Its not that I couldn't respond to what went before, its just that there is very little point.
So ...

>>How about giving us some hardcore facts instead of your funny little dreams for a start?

The image of the Soul as imaged on Flickr, @
http:/www.flickr.com/photos/st-ward
is an absolute fact; described in scripture [Mathew Mark,Luke] and revered by great civilitations; the medallion of Alexander the Great, etc. The writings you have read are peppered with facts and entirely baseed upon known knowledge. I am an artist: fact is everything to me. I cannot progress without fact; therefore nothing I have ever wrote or imaged is abstract; I abhor abstraction. My perception is that you are not very well read, else google is your fountain of knowledge; how sad for you.

More of those rambling put downs and then this gem ...

>> No, you didn't foresee 'the shape of the destructer'. How preposterous and pretentious! What are you trying to say, you saw the shape of suicide bombers as having two arms and two legs? We all see images of the past but choose to call them 'photographs' or 'paintings', so I agree it's not unusual.

Now your being silly! Yes I have in the past foresaw the shape of things to come - I'll put it that way for you. And er no, its neither pretentious or preposterous; nor is it pretentious or preposterous to experience deja-vu or telepathy or astral projection or luck or an inspired guess or ...

More put downs and then ...

>>Incidentally, my 'Saturday night entertainment' consists of having intelligent dialogue with intelligent people on intelligent subjects on a site called 'h2g2'. I write for the Edited Guide, scout for the Edited Guide, and sub for the Edited Guide. I do this most nights. I don't pretend to be some visionary seer whose response to criticism is 'go away'. I tend to make sense to those who read my words. I certainly don't criticise other users without foundation.

"I certainly don't criticise other users without foundation." What is that a joke lie or something? Look mate I respect you for all the love you very obviously put into your vocation; so why do you have to come out with "I don't pretend to be some visionary seer" and the like. Have I met you before. Did I steal you wife or something. I mean man, chill why don't you. Adventer is my Life. The Soul and the workings of Man; they are my life. These things are my morning noon and night pre-occupations.

>> You fall down in the second sentence. Plants not products of Life? I understand the rest as normal human behaviour, except the comment that virility is 'very Egyptian' - most of us would find virility as normal but comparing oneself to the ancient Egyptians very pretentious

Plants are not a product of Life; Life and Death both are products of Creation; Plants are come out of Death; Oh read Adventer again why don't you; and this time pay attention.

More stuff ...

>> I'm sure your observation is very interesting . Diametrically opposite to a 16th century seer, eh? Very challenging.

Nostredamus worked from Spirit; I work from Soul. There is nothing in the universe as oppositely positioned as Soul and Spirit.

>> I also made the point here about your existential self, which you have avoided. Can say now that I do not think I see the

Sorry I didn't see it it was so kindly written. I will go over that again and either put a different posting or start new thread. Can comment that I dont subscribe to that [philosophical] approach. In fact I am sure if you reread Adventer you will see that it is written very much with the human condition in mind.

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>>> Oh, go on, get smart. Is it the second? The sixth? Who cares? Funny how these things come in sevens, isn't it? Perhaps you could break the news to the fourth Adventer that earthquakes are usually caused by continental plates scraping together as one subducts. He or she had better get down the Jobcentre, eh?

>>What causes the one to subduct?

>One is heavier than the other.

What gives the extra weight?

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>>All divine things are described in sevens, but you do you care?

>Holy Trinity, anyone?

The Holy Trinity is not a divine thing; The Holy Trinity is the divine; the wholesome representation of the complete Creation. Angels Soul, Spirit, etc may be described as divine things. Anyhow the word thing is more representative of my poor grasp of language than an accurate descriptor, as you probably guessed.

>> Oooh, sounds nice! Will there be candyfloss? And balloons? Maybe a big wheel? Why should I be patient with your writing when every sentence is >>{nice picture goes here)<< , anyway?

Actions surely speak louder than words?

>> Firstly, "Alchemist de moderne" doesn't actually mean anything in French...

Of course it doesn't; its not arranged so for the purpose of meaning: It is what you see.

>> Secondly, The word 'Alchemist' is written in French as 'Alchimiste', so not only is your anagram meaningless, but it also makes as much sense of saying the words 'George W Bush' are an anagram for 'Really Sensible Intelligent Guy' and thus all Americans should vote for him!

Ok so we have a 'd' over; how about d'alchemiste moderne? ... I think you miss the point here bud!

"The word", which is in continuum is as fluid as water. The chances are that in the old french this anagram would never have worked. But the anagram was never meant to be for the old Frenchie, and probably not for the recent either. What is to say it isn't 'designed' to be decipherable as it has been made over and discussed here?

>> If you can't get the basics right in your theories, how do you expect people to even consider the rest?

I am not a theorist; nor am I a know it all. I work along side you even now. I notice something. You improve upon it. The reason I bring things here is to stimulate others who may be interested. You must have realised that I would see the imperfection in the anagram above, at least as its limitations currently apply. What you don't seem to realise about me is that I am genuinely open minded. If I can see an anagram involving 18 or so letters, in a foreign language to boot, then I am not against a little help to polish that sight finer.

Thank you; your input is most welcome.

How about:
Non-fissionable malevolent smarty-boots rampages.
Or:
Venomless lobotomy antagonises rampant barflies.

Both of which make exactly as much sense as your Nostradamus anagrams.

Pretty damn excellent: well done, you got right into that.

How about this one then,
Adventer = Avert end?

Thats all I'm trying to help us all do: honest.

Peace be with you Mr. Dreadful

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Really? The only things I saw on your photo site were good ole early-mid 90s style computer generated images.

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Remind me to teach you basic biology some time.

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Rock and lots of it.

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Umm... remind me to give you the dictionary definition of 'contradictory' some time.

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>>Really? The only things I saw on your photo site were good ole early-mid 90s style computer generated images.

How images are made, which technology, what era, is not important. It is the image that is important. Also the image we actually discuss, that of the Soul, is a photograph, genuine and available for any inspection. iT was, which uyou could ghave read bu obviously didn't, shot in the Marina del Rey hotel, in LA on good Friday, March 1999; and a witness was present.

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> Remind me to teach you basic biology some time.

I think you have missed the whole point here. You cannnot teach me anything where this subject, which is not about physical states, is concerned. What Biologists have termed and measured as as extra-life is what I write about. It is an absolute fact, agreed with by the likes of Lyall Watson that that Life and Death are seperate realities, whichh together are observed by us as one physical reality. The extra-energy organisation of particular species and types, illustrated by their animatednessaan their tissue, aligns those types as Spirit or Soul organised.

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> Rock and lots of it.

What gives the substances which comprise rocks their weight?
nb. Refer to Allais (french scientist) if you get stuck with this one.

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>Umm... remind me to give you the dictionary definition of 'contradictory' some time.

This is getting boring. From ridiculing, to condescending to just plain awkward, where do you go next? The above statement does not exhibit variance. On the contrary my statement was clear. The Holy Trinity - as I believe the Christian religion intends it - is what all other things are out of. In other words the Holy Trinity represents the Creation; and souls and angels etc are products of Creation.

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Right. What I appear to have missed is that something LIVING (in this case a plant) is a product of DEATH... I really don't understand this at all. It simply makes no sense to me.

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That would be mass and gravity, Earth's gravity enacts an equal force on all things present but the mass affects how much these things actually weigh. When would you like your physics lesson by the way?

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Maybe if I had a full name...


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>Umm... remind me to give you the dictionary definition of 'contradictory' some time.

This is getting boring. From ridiculing, to condescending to just plain awkward, where do you go next? The above statement does not exhibit variance. On the contrary my statement was clear.>>

*gets a blackboard and writes in extra big letters:*
Right, the Holy Trinity *is* the Divine. Fair enough. BUT it is therefore, by its very nature, a Divine "Thing". For there to be a trinity there has to be something tangible. Ergo, thing.