h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Did you know that during the plague the only man in France who had a cure that worked was Nostradamus?

Co-inncidence or what?

What I am trying to say to you requires Ears

You know this Earth is polluted by the refuse of characters like you.

Your understanding is limited. The fact is I do not think that YOU calling my writing over-blown caused Katrina "almost a month later".

What I am trying to tell you is Creation caused Katrina, my imaging foresaw the shape of the destructer, and you , via the Adventer were allowed the opportunity to participate in prophetic events as they unfurl: strange thing space and time?

I don't have to explain my workings to you. I can tell you that within a short period one half of the human population will be permanently lost, that is eternally wiped out; this because they do not actualy exist: a concept probably over your head, because you are stuck in this existence, as your note to me divulges.

I can also tell you that I am not responsible for the hurricanes. I could get smart with you and mention which Adventer is. But that will be made clear soon enough. And no I don't do Earthquakes either; the fourth Adventer does those things.

I am here to deal with the dark one?

"The big Issue" has done more to numb middle class brains to the truth of homelessness than its content warrants.
It is the housing officials what the watchtower is to Islam.

But I concede it is a useful cofee table item for ssome apologists.

"The big Issue" has done more to numb middle class brains to the truth of homelessness than its content warrants.

It is to housing officials what the watchtower is to Islam.

One concession... it is a useful cofee table item for some Socialist apologists.

Sorry I should have added to this ...

"If you choose to think that me calling your writing over-blown caused Katrina almost a month later, then you may like to know that my grandmother once scribbled over the face of a particularly dense and smug individual on a magazine and he was involved in a serious accident a few days later. So be careful what you say to me, my powers are obviously inherited on the female side. "

I am assuming your Grand Mother is/was WICCAN ... thats the sort of stuff those folk do I've heard; and yes, the female psyche is far more effective in the use of this dastardly technique than the masculine.

You know "thou shalt not kill" doesn't necessarily refer to a physical event, though it may well become one?

You obviously know some very spatial people?

Nostradamus was first, last and above all else a self-publicist. He may have been sincere. He may have been a cynical liar. But just because he said he had a cure does not mean that he did.


>> You know this Earth is polluted by the refuse of characters like you.

Not just me darlin'. We are all guilty colluders in the destruction of the ecosystems of this planet. You, me, everyone who reads this, and everyone who doesn't. The biggest contribution that any of us can make to the future of the planet is not to have children. I could start ranting here, but I won't.


>> I can tell you that within a short period one half of the human population will be permanently lost,

That's news? I wouldn't have thought so. I've been aware for a long while that we are living in apocalyptic times. We only have to look at what AIDS is doing in Africa, and consider that we are building cities such as New Orleans, Galveston and the Thames Gateway, with no regard to how vulnerable they are to natural or man-made disasters. Our infrastructures are paper thin - the power goes, communications go, transport goes, water and sewage goes, food supplies go, and New Orleans shows us what happens when that happens. We live in a world which can unravel in a matter of hours.

So what you are saying is hardly news, Stward. It's pretty clear to all with the nerve to stare reality in the face and not blink.


>> that is eternally wiped out; this because they do not actualy exist: a concept probably over your head,

Well, it is certainly a concept I have not come across before. Every spiritual philosophy I have explored, with the possible exception of Taoism which I don't know much about, presupposes an existance beyond our physical lives.

Are you saying that half of the people on the planet have souls and the other half don't?



>> because you are stuck in this existence, as your note to me divulges.

Hmmmm. Who knows whether I am stuck in this existance or not? But since you know nothing at all about my spiritual practices and beliefs, and nothing about my views on the times we live in other than what I have said here, I find that remark a little.... assumptive.

I suspect that the main difference between us is not our view on the likely outcome of the times we live in: we agree that there already is doom, gloom, disaster and death with more to come, after all.

I suspect that the main difference between us is that I base my pessimism on logic, economics, sociological indicators and some understanding of realpolitik, and you arrive at similar conclusions through intuition and metaphor. It may feel like external spiritual revelation. It may even *be* external spiritual revelation, but I - personally - doubt that.

I have had some dealings with people who claim to channel external spiritual sources. While I have never come across anyone who was not sincere, I have equally never come across anyone who channelled something which they did not already know or which they had not already been exposed to. In other words, all of the channnels I have come across have, in my opinion, been channeling their own subconscious. What is interesting is that there often is a lot of instinctive truth and wisdom in what they say. The subconscious has an ability to cut the crap and present things in a very emotional and powerful way. But there is never any meat, never any real substance. Never anything new.

This is not to deny the spiritual insights of people like the Buddha and Jesus Christ, but neither of them claimed to channel their messages. They were both quite clearly disciplined spiritual practitioners, the Buddha in particular.


>> I can also tell you that I am not responsible for the hurricanes.

I didn't think for a moment that you are.


>> I could get smart with you and mention which Adventer is. But that will be made clear soon enough. And no I don't do Earthquakes either; the fourth Adventer does those things.

Earthquakes is an interesting one. A friend of mine pointed out that by removing huge quantities of gas and oil from under ground and under the sea and replacing some of them with water, and some of them presumably with nothing at all, we are taking huge risks with the stability of the surface of the earth. She is no geophycisist, and neither am I, but it is on my list of questions to ask the next time I find one. Intuitively it makes sense that changing the physical properties of sections of the earth's crust could contribute to instability and earth-quakes.



>> "The big Issue" has done more to numb middle class brains to the truth of homelessness than its content warrants.

What do you base that on? The purpose of the Big Issue is to give homeless people an income not based on begging, to help to re-integrate them back into society's structures. It does that job reasonably well.

There is something in what you say that people will salve their conscience with the fact that they buy the Big Issue, but equally it does run stories on issues relating to homelessness which would not reach an audience any other way.

B

I wouldn't call your writing 'overblown', stward - I'd call it pretentious twaddle. Clearly you have a very fertile imagination; nothing wrong with that, but most people who have one recognise it as such.

I wouldn't bother if it weren't so quiet on here on a Saturday night, but still - lets look at post 22:


>You know this Earth is polluted by the refuse of characters like you.

Yes, and you too. Unless your computer is powered by an exercise bike you incessantly pedal while typing. What exactly are *your* green solutions? We all leave a footprint of some kind, use some natural resource. While most of us try to minimise our individual impacts, I find a comment like 'characters like you' pointedly rude.


>Your understanding is limited.

It is. In fact, I see no reason to believe that you make any sense to anyone but yourself, and even less reason to spend hours reading self-aggrandising rubbish written in a state of delusion.


>What I am trying to tell you is Creation caused Katrina,

No, it was intense water evaporation in the Tropics, condensing and releasing large amounts of latent heat into the atmosphere. If this low pressure can sustain winds above 75mph, it becomes a hurricane rather than a tropical storm. In a nutshell.


>my imaging foresaw the shape of the destructer

Don't be silly.


>and you , via the Adventer were allowed the opportunity to participate in prophetic events as they unfurl: strange thing space and time?

I tend to watch the news; it's more reliable.


>I don't have to explain my workings to you.

You don't have to, no, but if you did it would sound less like gobbledigook.


>I can tell you that within a short period one half of the human population will be permanently lost, that is eternally wiped out; this because they do not actualy exist: a concept probably over your head, because you are stuck in this existence, as your note to me divulges.

You have read a lot of Nostradamus, haven't you? This sounds to me like an existential halfway house; you can't decide in yourself if you would like to be part of the world or not, so are deciding for yourself which bits you like. Or you're making it up as you go along.


>I can also tell you that I am not responsible for the hurricanes.

Yes, we've established that. Evaporation, condensation, latent heat, low pressure, high winds. Next.


>I could get smart with you and mention which Adventer is. But that will be made clear soon enough. And no I don't do Earthquakes either; the fourth Adventer does those things.

Oh, go on, get smart. Is it the second? The sixth? Who cares? Funny how these things come in sevens, isn't it? Perhaps you could break the news to the fourth Adventer that earthquakes are usually caused by continental plates scraping together as one subducts. He or she had better get down the Jobcentre, eh?


>I am here to deal with the dark one?

I thought Michael Howard was standing down anyway? Or is there someone even more terrifying we should be watching out for?


Really, why don't you pop out for a beer or something, and try to relax? I'm sure you've got loads of wonderfully interesting and clever stuff to say, but Adventer isn't it. I'm sure the other six would manage just fine if you told them you'd found something sensible to think about

Although, to be fair to you, you made more sense than usual in post 25

I think stward's problem is that he's far too uptight. Go and get some beer and find a girl for Bob's sake!

Just adding my , I tried to read your entry and I couldn't get through the first paragraph - it's not the type of writig that gets accepted to the Edited Guide and I'd be very suprised if any other publication would accept it either.

Now I'll read it through so I can comment on the content.

I think I'm going to regret this

I struggled my way through the series and have been following everyone's comments with interest. It's good to see it's not just me that's struggling with it!

Well, that was 10 minutes I'll never get back

OK, structurally, that was impossible to comprehend. I had no idea what you were going on about - and as the Edited Guide is supposed to be able to be read by anyone, there's no way that'd get in.

The idea itself, well, it made GrandSamDonald seem almost sane, but going beyond that, the Guide isn't the place for an entry like that. It was a sermon - if it had been written objectively, ie. this is a belief that some people have, and these are the facets of it - it may have been almost interesting, but I doubt that you'd be capable of making an objective guide entry about it.

In the end, I came away with a headache, and a vague idea that there is a religion that I've never heard of that has something to do with something called an Adventer, and Hitler was somehow involved. I may have been able to make more sense of it if I'd read it again, but frankly, I can't be bothered.

If you can't see that this 'series' doesn't belong in the Edited Guide than you really are missing something.

Oh well, it takes all kinds to make up the world, and this thread at least is interesting.

Well, Stward has stopped asking for it to go into the Edited Guide.

It is anyone's guess whether or not that is because he has accepted the various explanations of why it is not suitable for the EG which people have given throughout the thread.

I'm quite interested in some of the other things he's saying though.

Did y'all really read the whole thing? You have more self-discipine than I have, then!

B

I tried, B. I really did. I felt some kind of duty to try at least, but when every sentence grates (hence my posting) it's really hard

I'm impressed!

I was far more impressed with your reply, B! That is some patience and intelligence you have

People who like stward's 'unique' style might want to have a look at similar pieces on this page - A938225 . Indeed I thought he was on there at one point.

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