h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

h2g2; as I understood it h2g2 was supposed to be "The Guide to Life, The Universe and Everything". So why, when such writings are posted, are detractros able to come and threaten one when an item is put up for peer review?

I have had the Adventer series on the go on this site for well over a year. Because of the obstructions of w*nk*rs, acting out of spite I have been unable to post what is a serious piece of work and actually the only piece I have seen on this site which actually properly deals with the subject matter proper.

If you doubt the voracity of what I sy visit,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/st-ward

There you will see visually, what here should be displayed literally.
Given some of the rubbish published on these pages a bit of truth wouldn't go amiss.

As for the wkrs already mentioned, shame on their ignorance; and shame on the BBC for allowing these control freaks free reign to run other peoples lives: and actually shame on the BBC for, yet again, falsely advertising a product.

It seems that at the end of the day all that h2g2 is, is a web space for luvvies with credit cards and narrow minds.

Which threads are you referring to specifically, stward? And which entries?

Simple. threads from so long ago who cares:

The entries I mentioned ... ADVENTER ... (I, II, III).

I dont provide this free work to be deluged with flash put downs by brain deads; so I stopped providing it. I post bits from time to time to my personal space and direct people there.

If any of the curs who hounded me had taken the trouble to read any of Adventer they would have seen that what is actually happening is the progresssion of a real time Script; nad every script ever written and worth salt was written by a crowd.

By the way, for what it is worth, Adventer is not a Joke; nor is it a hoax. It is honest and true; gotten from heaven and hell.

The Adventer

I've had a look at your Adventers entries stward, and as far as I can tell none of them have been submitted to Peer Review, for there would be a Peer Review thread at the bottom of each entry if they had been submitted and subsequently taken out of Peer Review. Nor, as far as I can tell, are they currently in Peer Review. I'm at rather a loss, therefore, to understand what your complaint is.

*bookmarks*

Well, the threads were clearly not attached to the Adventer series, anyway.

Ookajipiv, Stward has a point in that if s/he did put the the Adventer series into PR, s/he would be told to take them out because they don't fit the guidelines. Certainly, if Hellmans' Anachronism, which was originally called "Historical Proof of Future Time-Travel" was not considered suitable for the Edited Guide, then the Adventer series should not be either.

However, Stward, I do rather wonder if you have missed the point of the Edited Guide. It is not there to showcase writing, and it is not there to promote theories which you already know go against the mainstream. It is there to be a practical and readable guide to the physical manifestations of Life the Universe and Everything.

I tried reading the Adventer series, but the writing is overblown and theatrical, and I would say that for that reason alone, it is unlikely to get picked for the UnderGuide or by CACC, or by the Post. (I am not going to get drawn into the pros and cons of your interpretation of the world, Stward. If it works for you - then fine. Mine works for me, and I'll settle for that.)

But don't blame the site for not listening to your message when it is presented in such an overblown and unreadable way.

Ben

Adventer 1 was put into peer review. I withdrew it after mnetioned nonsense.
Adventer 1 was later removed and then returned to site; I thought ... up theirs?
hope this helps ...I don't need to lie about these things.

The writing of Adventer is not overblown or theatrical; it is the style of writing which - and I do not know why this is - is given by Creation, when Crreation has got something important to say. It isn't automatic writing, which anyhow is of dubious origin; the style of writing, as far as I can see is prophetic.

Please do not get wrong, I do not style my self as - do not want to be -nor am, as far as I know, a prophet. All I know is that Adventer is written through me; and is totally honestly brokered to whoever chooses to read it.

What is put into Adventer is not personal theory. This may disappoint you but I am a working class Geordie with no Prime Ministerial ambitions or such like. Also, having read Adventer my self I am inclined to agree with your overall critique, and admit it is heavy duty stuff for h2g2; or is it. After all what is Life, the Universe and Everything as an expression of language?

I have learnt to have a sanguine mind about Adventer. Some of it seems very useful, some of it very disconcerting, some of it, and here I wholeheartedly agree with you, seems to be far fetched nonsense (I think that is what your trying to say). But on the whole, for those with the ears, Adventer provides stimulus of a particular type.

You might rationalise the fact that its style is not C S Lewis; but C S Lewis isn't exactly scripture, which Adventer clearly is. my own conclusion is that "God" does not select only Semitic people to speak to the Human race through.

For the record may I explain to you that I am dyslexic (isn't every body these days - I hear the groans - ), possess a sieve rather than a sponge for a brain (normal then) and find writing Adventer an exhausting experience. I have persisted with it because it is what Creation has gave me to give you (meaning everyone). If you visited Flickr you will sees that I am image orientated my self.

Having replied these things to you may I say further that your critique is most welcome, and agrreable to me. I don't feel put down or discouraged in any way; you say pretty much what I think my self. I do not know really know Creation is trying to communicate through me to us or indeed why. All I know is that Adventer is genuine, is not personal to me, and is unfinished. Whenever I try to embellish it with a viewpoint of my own I am unable to.

I have concluded that the revelation pending requires assimilation of those things already set out; this because I am absolutely certain we have a Soul, (I have seen that as reported) and we have a Spirit, Creation soundly inspires me to believe so.

As far as I knnow the Adventer is the first writings to identify and quantify these two energies seperately and attribute their influence accordingly. As you know the Bible or Bhagvad-Gita for example, aren't exactly light reading; no scripture is. Also such documents are readable only when in a certain frame of mind. My original posting expressed my concern that a minority were able to select what should be available to the majority on what is essentially put forward as a public "Space".

Notwithstanding its complex message, Adventer is not pornographic or vulgar, nor does it seek either to mislead or misguide the reader. It si food for thought as far as I can tell: beyond that, and this is the truth, it is the inspired word of the Creation, not of God or Gods, but of Creation. Honest.

"bookmarks" ???

sorry I am not sure how to respond to your comment, thanks for your offering anyway. Please forgive my unintelligent response.

>My original posting expressed my concern that a minority were able to select what should be available to the majority on what is essentially put forward as a public "Space"

Not true; you can write anything you like as a Guide entry as long as it's not offensive interms of the language used. However, there are guidelines for the edited guide - there's quite a distinction. Your work may not be suitable for the EG, but anyone searching for 'Adventer' on hootoo will find your entries.

And by the way; I don't have a credit card and work three jobs. Clearly I have a narrow mind, however, as I am an atheist.

Yes do correct me ... As I said I am very ordinary, even my personal prejudices are so.


Seriously, your comments are valued by me. I would love to be able to write, but probably never will. In the mean time I endeavour with the little scraps of literary mode I get.

Believe me I have to keep low; my efforts embarrass me so. I'm a heathen (and proud of it) so I spend a great deal of my life hiding from myself let alone others.

I go to a Catholic church from time to time, because I enjoy church accoustics, but otherwise struggle with what most people also struggle with, i.e. God.

I think for me ( a male aged 46) the most important understanding gained in the course Adventer takes me on. is that there are two 'fused' energies driving hummman beings. I say important because that conclusion permitted me to read prophetic writings with a clearer understanding of what issues were relevent ... to the author influenced by Soul or by Spirit. I believe Mankind's single greatest failing is to be ignorant of these distinctions and thus live properly, i.e. harmoniously as Creation requires.

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Are the people who have commented really spiteful and mean? Really?? The above sentance suggests that you really cannot accept the possibility that what you've written isn't the best thing since slicing bread.

I have to say that I agree with Ben about the overblon-ness of the writing in Adventer, and that it isn't by any stretch of the imagination PR material...

There you go ... Another individual who seems intent on being personal.

Let me tell you I have read a lot of the items posted on h2g2 and adopted by peer review. Personally I do not find all of them the "best thing since sliced bread"; however understanding the objective of h2g2, to be diverse and representative, I tolerate those things whose appeal, in my eyes at least, is pretty limited, and actually sod all to to with the subject.
In many respects h2g2 may be compared to the free homeless magazine, "The big issue", which purporting to have an issue, anyway flaccidly show cases pop stars and gossip above homelessness every time.
Thus does h2g2 avoid its subject matter in favour of what are often irrelevant items wrtitten by holidaying hacks and the like.

And yes, spiteful and mean is a fairly accurate description of some of the rubbish posted me a year or so ago by admittedly only a couple of people; who nonetheless were claiming to represent the 'organisation'. Why my expression bothers you I don't know. Spitefulness and meanness are epidemic accross the uk now; I am not the only person to observe so.

The tolerance that was the standard British trait has been replaced with bullishness; the overbearing prowl everywhere looking for some poor Soul to bring crashing down. Even a public amenity, offering anonymous publication ,is teeming with self opinionated judges who want to control what the masses read.

If you will care to read the threads of this posting you will note that I, as much as anyone agree with the oddness of Adventer. However it is Art and it is current and as relevent as anything penned by Blake, Coleridge etc. People should have the opportunity to read literature of this type. It was offerd up to h2g2 because by suggestion h2g2 associates its aims with the subject matter Adventer in fact presents.

For your information Adventer began, as a work, before h2g2 was started.

Have you actually got any proof of this spitefulness?

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I take it you *have* looked at the EG? Here are just a few 'relevant' items:
A3073691 – Tibet – China's Claim to Rule
A3599328 – Make Poverty History
A224623 – The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

And here are a few Edited Entries that while 'irrelevant' (and who are you exactly to judge what is and isn't relevant on a site which is supposed to encompass everything rather than just the 'issues') are well written and informative:
A2385597 – Rubik's Cube
A500509 – The Italian Job
A877881 – The Hobbit

You seem to have completely missed the point of the Big Issue as well as h2g2.

It is _not_ free, and it does not make a big standpoint on the issue of homelessness for precisely the reason that people would be unlikely to pay £1:10 to read that every week. Instead, it has realised that there is a mass market for music, TV and celebrity gossip and makes a passable job at chipping into said market.

B

I think the main problem with this discussion is the failure misinformation or misunderstanding about the basic concept of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
The concept of "Life, the Universe and Everything" is for the most part not to be bundled up into an all-encompassing entry, but the EG should be, as pointed out before, a forum where people can find information about subjects that interest them. This could be about Life OR The Universe OR Everything else in between and around. Therefor, an entry in the EG about the Rubick's Cube is as valid an entry as an entry about the Universal Declaration about Human Rights.

The problem with the Adventer series is that it's untangible to a lot of people and therefor lacks a sort of validity as there exists no proof for it's "truths".
Granted, there are a lot of entries in the Guide that deals with unproven theories, but those theories are generally widely accepted as a viable give-and-take theory which may have been disproved or proved.
I have no doubt that the Adventer series are true to you, stward, but I fear that a lo tof others might see things i a totally different way.
There are a lot of entries that has to do with religion in the Guide, but those entries deal with the religions themselves (history, belief systems, traditions), and not the actual doctrine of those religions.
The Adventer series does come across as something very close to preaching from what I've read about it, which would not make it very well suited for the Edited Guide, however it does have a place in the forum that is this website.

I would just like to make one last point, and that is the comment about the "BBC for falsely advertising a product."
If you think the advertising of the h2g2 site as being a Guide to Life, The Universe and Everything is false, I would have to disagree.
It is a guide to Life, with entries about such things as "The Causes of Asthma - A262775", "Health Advice for Travellers - A438446" and "Tips on How to Deal with Difficult People - A530001".
It's also a Guide to The Universe with such entries as "The Discovery of Pulsars - A882218", "Time Dilation - A273854" and "Neptune - A386598".
It also covers Everything else that can not be classified into the previous two under the heading of "Everything" with such entries as "Greek Myths - Sirens - A657416", "Useful Elvish Phrases - A882236" and "The Mary Celeste - A426007"

So I do not believe that the BBC is falsely advertising h2g2 at all when saying that it is a Guide to Life, The Universe and Everything.

Iam sorry for the delay in replying to this well written note posted for me to read some four weeks ago...

I can only say that it is not what the BBC is advertising that bothers me; it is what they do not advertise that bothers me.

Look at it from my point of view ... In the postings associated with this thread, someone described Adventer as being "overblown". About that time I started to hand round a card displaying my face at the centre of a hurricane. Katrina happened within 1 week.

Of course this [and other similar events] are coincidence, aren't they?

Anyhow you may be pleased to know that I am set to re-enter Adventer, rewritten and updated. I will be doing this in real time and I have no knowledge as to what is waiting to be revealed.
Honestly I await with trepidation, for I am sure that what will be set out will be what will be; that is where Life the Planet and we are concerned.

Again, thank you for your cheery note.

>> Of course this [and other similar events] are coincidence, aren't they?


Yes they are.

If you choose to think that me calling your writing over-blown caused Katrina almost a month later, then you may like to know that my grandmother once scribbled over the face of a particularly dense and smug individual on a magazine and he was involved in a serious accident a few days later. So be careful what you say to me, my powers are obviously inherited on the female side.



>> Adventer 1 was put into peer review. I withdrew it after mnetioned nonsense.
>> Adventer 1 was later removed and then returned to site; I thought ... up theirs?

So the version currently linked to your page does not include the Peer Review conversation, and the PR conversation is linked to a previous version of Adventer which you have deleted or hidden?

>> hope this helps ...I don't need to lie about these things.

Not really.

If you have a complaint to make about PR then please provide links to the conversation, and we can see whether or not people were unnecessarily rude and personal. There isn't much anyone can do about a complaint without evidence. Actually, the best thing to do is to use the complaint button beside the posts that you found offensive, because that way the site's Moderators get to see the post and consider whether or not it should be removed.

Or is your complaint that the guidelines for the Edited Guide do not stretch to including scripture? In which case - tough. Those are the guidelines, and if you know of an online encyclopedia which will accept scripture, then I suggest you go to it.

Or are you complaining that the creative part of H2G2 won't accept the Adventer series because of their own guidelines? Once again - tough. Those are the guidelines, and they are there to make the selection processes workable. If you want to create a separate part of the site which will promote Adventer, then good luck. I know that there are people on the site with a greater or lesser interest in such matters. Good luck to you.

Or are you not actually complaining at all, but musing on the nature of divine inspiration, revelation and the origins of scripture? In which case, fair enough. I'm happy to muse on the nature of divine inspiration, revelation and the origins of scripture, though it does represent an impressive topic drift from a thread entitled 'Peer Review'.

It's hard to respond when it's not clear where you are coming from, or what you want to have changed.

B

I think i know a gent who would understand your point of view, stward...

B

"About that time I started to hand round a card displaying my face at the centre of a hurricane. Katrina happened within 1 week.

Of course this [and other similar events] are coincidence, aren't they?"

It's the height of hurricane season, so no, it isn't a coincidence at all - it's a downright certainty.