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A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Started conversation Oct 21, 2000
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This is my first attempt, and I'm not sure if it's what you're after, but I would like to submit it for editting.
It's an alternative look on writing poetry. Any and all constructive comments would be appreciated.
A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Lear (the Unready) Posted Oct 22, 2000
Neither sad, mad, nor bad, in my humble opinion. An enjoyable piece of writing, and I don't see any reason why the Guide shouldn't take it on board as a relevant subject. After all, h2g2 purports to deal with real-life subject matter, and there's no shortage of bad poetry out there in the world.
Your article might benefit from a few illustrations from this immense canon, actually. That might help to flesh it out a bit.
I don't necessarily agree that bad poetry requires less thought than the good stuff. I've personally laboured (in the dim and distant past) for hours on end over pages and pages of what turned out to be complete crap, and it always seemed to get worse the harder I tried...
All the best, Lear.
PS - what's a Vogon?
A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Gavroche Posted Oct 22, 2000
While it may sound strange, H2G2 does tend to shy away from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy references in edited entries. It blurs the lines between fact and fiction, and the guide entries are supposed to be fact. (Consider that the fictional guide supposedly contained factual entries for that fictional universe. So while an entry mentioning Vogons would be fine in DNA's universe's Guide, it doesn't work for the Earth edition).
I like this entry, though I have a desire for it to go on longer. I'd like more methods. One I can think of:
1) Throwing in as many over-used cliches as possible.
As I beat the dead horse
and Fate runs its course
Your lips taste like wine
And we both toe the line
A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Lear (the Unready) Posted Oct 22, 2000
2) For the truly desperate stuff, you can't beat a good dose of downright pretentiousness. Make sure to include a bit of utterly gratuituous literary namedropping, eg...
Solitude heavier than a stony albatross
As I traversed Ulysses' throbbing membrane of despair
As though in thrall to an earlier Wasteland -
The trajectory of silence.
I think I'll stop there actually...
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Oct 23, 2000
Thank you both for your wonderful comments!
I've changed 'Vogon' (they were the worst poets in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy universe, Lear, if my memory serves me right) to 'William McGonnagall' - who even has the benefit of an article to link to
The others are great suggestions, and I'll work on them. Thank you!
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Oct 23, 2000
OK, I had a few more ideas as well as the excellent suggestions you guys gave me, and I've edited the article accordingly.
How does that look?
A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Number 6 Posted Oct 23, 2000
There once was a man from Nantucket. . . .
Oh wait! That's downright plagarism. Actually. . .
Driving in my car
wanting to go far
laughing at everyone that I pass
That is until I run out of gas
In my car I'm a superman
Weaving through traffic because I can
Now as I sit with my hazards blinking
I just can't stop thinking
Maybe I should have stopped an hour ago
Instead of looking like schmo
Maybe there should be a bad poetry contest to see who could write the worst maybe?
A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Lear (the Unready) Posted Oct 23, 2000
It gets better every time I look at it. Excellent stuff. And as for this William McGonagall fellow - well, what can I say? A revelation...
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Oct 25, 2000
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Oct 31, 2000
On the subject of rhymes (since this article is full of it), I found a link to a rhyming dictionary. I think it'll prove to be an entertaining addition.
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John the gardener says, "Free Tibet!" Posted Nov 13, 2000
Well done! This is a very entertaining and practical guide for those of us who aspire to the awful. Bad poetry, horrible art, and atrocious dress sense - to quote the inimitable July Andrews - are a few of my favourite things.
JTG
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Nov 13, 2000
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Salamander the Mugwump Posted Jan 12, 2001
Very good! I think writing bad poetry is a natural 'gift' that some people are just born with but it would be useful to have this entry in The Edited Guide to help those unfortunate souls who are not so blessed.
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Seven of Nine [(1x52)-2-8]x1=42! Posted Jan 12, 2001
This is a very good entry, I wonder why it's been in Peer Review so long?
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Jan 12, 2001
It's always handy to get a few extra pointers when you get stuck! I've had a few myself since I started the article
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Lear (the Unready) Posted Jan 12, 2001
St. Seven, I agree. This one should have been snapped up ages ago.
Calling all Scouts - pick this, pick this, pick this, etc...
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Jan 13, 2001
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Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. Posted Jan 13, 2001
Inspired by the revival of this conversation, I have given the entry that overhaul I always meant to. Please let me know what you think now. It's had quite a few tweaks, and I think the look is much improved.
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A456653 How to Write Bad Poetry
Martin Harper Posted Jan 14, 2001
Yes, it is a good entry - the rewrite has significantly improved it, I think.
The first couple of lines are particularly nice: lovely way to introduce the entry. I'm not quite so convinced by the Jane Austen reference - a little pretentious to my ear...
> "this article"
we call them entries...
> This technique was succinctly and piquantly described
> by Morris Major and the Minors:
> "And there's no line here."
Umm?
That just lost me...
However, I'll share Tom Lehrer's usage of this technique, in his song "My Home Town":
"That fella was no fool,
who taught our sunday school,
and neither was our kindly parson brown.
(We're recording tonight, so I'll have to leave this line out)
In my home town!"
But many off the techniques for writing bad poetry apply to bad folk songs, too - bad rhymes, for example - and the wonderful techniques of making it *almost* have rhythym... but always be a syllable or two out.
I think you should mention Clerihews (and link to that entry). Clerihews are great because they are universally bad. It is, I am convinced, impossible to make a Clerihew a good poem, without making it not a clerihew. Probably because it has a strict rhyming requirement, and the first line has to be the guy's name - so there is endless fun doing one for Sarah McGoghlan or whatever...
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- 1: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Oct 21, 2000)
- 2: Lear (the Unready) (Oct 22, 2000)
- 3: Gavroche (Oct 22, 2000)
- 4: Lear (the Unready) (Oct 22, 2000)
- 5: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Oct 23, 2000)
- 6: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Oct 23, 2000)
- 7: Number 6 (Oct 23, 2000)
- 8: Lear (the Unready) (Oct 23, 2000)
- 9: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Oct 25, 2000)
- 10: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Oct 31, 2000)
- 11: John the gardener says, "Free Tibet!" (Nov 13, 2000)
- 12: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Nov 13, 2000)
- 13: Salamander the Mugwump (Jan 12, 2001)
- 14: Seven of Nine [(1x52)-2-8]x1=42! (Jan 12, 2001)
- 15: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Jan 12, 2001)
- 16: Lear (the Unready) (Jan 12, 2001)
- 17: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Jan 13, 2001)
- 18: Sad, Mad or Bad? - I always wanted to be a dino, but alas, I'm just old. (Jan 13, 2001)
- 19: NexusSeven (Jan 13, 2001)
- 20: Martin Harper (Jan 14, 2001)
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