A Conversation for Talking About the Guide - the h2g2 Community

Strange concepts.

Post 121

hasselfree

God is the sum total of all unconsciousness thought which is creative."
ALL AS IN ALL THE HUMANS THAT HAVE EVER LIVED?

Yes, reincarnation.

SO, DO WE GO THRU LIFE FOR KICKS? LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL PHYSICAL BODY AND BE SEPARATED FROM THE COLLECTIVE?

Yes. although 'kick's is a narrow word. try evovling by expereince instead.

Quantum physicists believe that the universe is made of something more like thought than matter !

I'll try to find a link...can't remember where I put it smiley - biggrin

THEORETICAL PHYSICS?
Absolutely nothing !!! smiley - biggrin

I wasn't allowed what is commonly known as further education. I've had to work stuff out for myself


Strange concepts.

Post 122

hasselfree

sorry had an attack of the typos, sometimes brains works quicker than fingers, thing.


Strange concepts.

Post 123

%- | ?

you: Yes, reincarnation.
me: do you believe that each life we are given is random? or is there an order to it?

me: SO, DO WE GO THRU LIFE FOR KICKS?
you: Yes. although 'kick's' is a narrow word. try evovling by expereince instead.
me: i get it. i was using "kicks" for comic effect smiley - laugh i for one realize that life in general is not just a bunch of "kicks"
or s#!ts and giggles as i like to say smiley - laugh

you: THEORETICAL PHYSICS? Absolutely nothing !!!
me: i can tell you 90% of what i know right here smiley - biggrin
it describes "reality" at a very small scale.
nothing is discrete.
everything is probability.
observation affects the actual state of things. [subjective interacts with objective.]
there are 6 flavors of quarks, including one called strange.
the smartest people in the world believe that the quantum world cannot be fully understood by the human brain.
quantum theory and einstein's theory of relativity describe "reality" on 2 different spatial scales.
the M-theory is supposed to incorporate both of them, i think.
that's 90% of what i know smiley - laugh

"further education" is not as important as RAW intelligence and the desire to THINK. in fact, being "highly educated" does not necessarily correlate with being "smarter". one of the smartest people i know is a medical secretary. smiley - ok
she's way smarter than most psych resident colleagues of mine smiley - biggrin

so, what do you do for a living?

i THINK out.

gotta see another patient. it's 2 pm here in not-so-sunny rochester, MN, USA.


Strange concepts.

Post 124

hasselfree

sorry forgot to answer this one

'can YOU bend spoons? '
No
'do you think that we [as subjective experiencers] influence the world around us?'
Yes.

'In quantum physics, observation changes the state of things. '
This is true, thought influencing outcome?

'so, maybe, if a baby was raised not to believe in a physical world, then he would be able to bend spoons '

I'm not sure how you'd raise a baby in this way.
How would you feed it or touch it?
It could not survive. It becomes a hyperthetical, without any solid results.

.....I suppose Jesus might be a candidate smiley - biggrin


Strange concepts.

Post 125

Amanda

I am thick and going onto to do a degree. smiley - laugh

Amanda ouy smiley - ok

smiley - sheep


Strange concepts.

Post 126

%- | ?

smiley - huh
i'm kinda slow at the moment.
what are you saying? smiley - biggrin

i THINK out smiley - ok

smiley - blacksheep


Strange concepts.

Post 127

Amanda

"further education" is not as important as RAW intelligence and the desire to THINK. in fact, being "highly educated" does not necessarily correlate with being "smarter". one of the smartest people i know is a medical secretary

I am thick and going on to do a degree. smiley - smiley


Strange concepts.

Post 128

%- | ?

Ahhh...smiley - eureka...the lights...they come on...
smiley - laugh
i suppose i'm proof of what i just said, huh?
smiley - laugh


Strange concepts.

Post 129

Amanda

No, it was me, replied to something I saw but did not say what I saw and where I saw it.

smiley - smiley


Strange concepts.

Post 130

%- | ?

according to hasselfree, we are all one, so i suppose it was both you and me and hell patrick stewart for that matter. and even arnold smiley - laugh


Strange concepts.

Post 131

Amanda

I think it was god. smiley - online2long


Strange concepts.

Post 132

%- | ?

i think hasselfree was saying that
god is everything
we are all part of everything
so, we = god ?
smiley - huh
she might flame me for this smiley - yikes

to hasselfree, smiley - grovel don't kick my a$$ if i twisted your words
smiley - laugh


Strange concepts.

Post 133

Amanda

We are everything, and everything is us.
Nothing is something and so everything must be nothing.

I think I have been smiley - online2long


Strange concepts.

Post 134

%- | ?


Amanda, are you on an acid trip? smiley - laugh
but, i beg smiley - grovel to differ. i think that nothing IS, in fact, NOTHING and not something smiley - huh
goddamit!!! another freakin' patient!!! they're like cockroaches!
smiley - grr
smiley - steam


Strange concepts.

Post 135

hasselfree

I Think

Yes that is what I'm saying.
You're not putting words in my mouth, you are taking some understanding from what I said. Not belief, but understanding , which is a very big thing to be able to do !

The very best thing a person can ever say to another in this world is;
'I understand you !' smiley - biggrin

And. First there was nothing.
And then there was everything and the everything was something to be explored and the everything that was now manifested as physical (ie something) could only truly be explored in the physical, so the creator (the Everything) entered the physical in the form of living things, and when that physical component wore out, the part of it that was the creator,(that we call soul for want of a better word) returns to it's source and takes on another form that enables it to explore other areas of physicality. In the making of this choice of experiencing things, there is no good or bad, wrong or right.
Until such time as there is no need to become physical because everything has been experienced and understood.

Hmm that sounds horribly biblical smiley - biggrin
but it's the conclusion I arrived at after experiencing flat lined death myself.
I don't have to believe it, I simply choose to do so.
Bottom line is, we all have the option to choose what we believe in, whether it be; life has a meaning or no meaning at all.
Laws, politics, religion,peer groups, can legislate things, but can't get into our heads to change the opinions we have created from the personal experiences we have had.
Unless we choose to go with the brain washing !......

.....which can be quite comforting......


Strange concepts.

Post 136

%- | ?

i like it when other people understand me, too smiley - ok
btw, about this:
And. First there was nothing.
And then there was everything ....
Until such time as there is no need to become physical because everything has been experienced and understood.
holy cow! smiley - wow
did you come up with that yourself?
it's beautiful! you must be a poet or something smiley - smiley

btw, what happened to ya? the flat line...

oh...one of the most impressive things i've noticed about you is your emphasis on the importance of one's own experiences as shapers of our "realities". 'tis true and most folks don't seem to realize this smiley - smiley

petey out smiley - ok


Strange concepts.

Post 137

hasselfree

Yes, pure unadulaterated Hasselfree type madness with the use of words smiley - biggrin .

flat line , short version

Allergic to a drug called suxamethonium

http://www.nda.ox.ac.uk/wfsa/html/u01/u01_010.htm#cont

Given to me as a result of emergency operation


Strange concepts.

Post 138

%- | ?

ahh...not good smiley - cry
btw, i was looking at "what h2g2 researchers are talking about" and clicked on the "God-fact or fiction" one. happened to see your name there. but i wasn't sure what you all were talking about smiley - huh
so, i left that one alone smiley - laugh
looked like drugs and masturbation smiley - huh


Strange concepts.

Post 139

hasselfree

I think there was a a wander off topic there!
It begin with the wandering from the idea that fundamental religions are suppressive (in my humble opinion) and from this link which another poster had asked us to read, which was a bit worrying to me

A935165

I tend to get a bit terrier like when confronted with the words "Thou Shalt Not......". and when I ask 'why?' the answer is because God told ME and I'm telling YOU.

Again this kind of thinking, is about people attempting to force their opinions on others, with the result that they end up with an inner conflict, because what they are being told (in this instance sex is bad) does not equate with what they intuitively 'know' from their own experience.

No doubt we'll be back on topic shortly smiley - biggrin


Strange concepts.

Post 140

%- | ?

i read that link and the lights come on smiley - eureka
smiley - ok
i get hostile when people act zombie-like about God and i wonder if there's anything more than a tape recorder up there in their noggin smiley - laugh
to me, what matters is not WHAT somebody believes, but WHY they believe it. i can't stand it smiley - grr when they just seem to be parrots smiley - steam.
but, if they can tell me good reasons WHY they think so, then, hey, i'm cool with it smiley - ok.
that's precisely why your belief in re-incarnation hasn't decreased my respect for you at all.
you're a THINKER! smiley - biggrin
smiley - ok


Key: Complain about this post