h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Are there not any links you could could refute all the nonsense in the VAN website ? Maybe you could point that they are a bunch of conspiracy nuts who think the world is run by alien lizards
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

[GT]

Trouble is, this particular board os for people who self-identify as "attachment parents". I read it because I identify with some of the parenting style but think lots of it, such as not praising your kids(!) is a bit batty. Some of the posters have a very anti-science, new-agey kind of approach so I find it hard to talk to them. From that website, I read this with utter bafflement and considerable anger:

"Large numbers of chronic diseases have evolved in the place of infectious disease, since the introduction of mass vaccination, including ME, Lupus, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Autism (previously known as Kanner Syndrome, discovered by Dr. Kanner in the 1940’s), MS, Ebola virus, AIDS, Lichen Planus, Vulvodynia and other hypersensitivity conditions, not to mention the rife and uncontrollable rates of cancer, heart disease, asthma, eczema and other allergies. Even meningitis was extremely rare before the 20th century.

We are killing ourselves in our quest to ‘prevent’ childhood illness, as mother nature is stronger than man, so tampering with immune function can have disastrous consequences for all. "

It makes no sense to me at all. And all the discussion of how vaccinations harm you, for example that giving them via injection bypasses the tonsils so the body isn't ready to fight the infection, is just carp.

But I just can't post that I think it is a load of boswellox...

This is one of those times that I think people should be required to get a license and take a test before having a child.

Poor Cookie Monster!

Kelli, perhaps these people have forgotten that in the pre-vaccine age there were fewer live births, far far fewer newborns reaching the age of one, and fewer children reaching the age of 10. And that ...



Hello everybody! Great scribing and I've also caught up on the backlog. We've just come back from our camping holiday in Cornwall. We packed up early because we returned from the beach to find the tent in danger of blowing away ... and we thought: hm. Better to pack up now, in daylight and dry weather, than at 2am in a storm. First time I've abandoned camp *ever* - but the right decision.

Family wedding on Saturday (DH's side, so zero stress for me - more for him, cos he's best man ) and I'm off work until next Tuesday - which is an all day training in Nodnol so doesn't really count. Looking forward to Monday, when I pack everybody off to school and work and have a whole day to myself.

Homegrown sweetcorn sounds lovely ... my only harvest this year has been sweet peas - but they are *beautiful* and it's so nice to have lots of flowers in the house

Mol

Fresh corn, mmmmmm. Finally I have been getting a few feeds of the local stuff. And yes, done quick and drenched in butter and it's a meal in itself.

I can sort of appreciate folks having concerns about mass vaccination and some of the horror stories that circulate about them. But my opinion is that the greater good of the community need still prevail.

Kelli, reading that reminds me of the time when my children were small. The vaccination against measles was much discussed at the time, and as a 'new' mother, I was insecure. But then I got to know two families (the argument having been that those side effects only happen to one in a gazillion children) who had had measles. One of those had rheumatic fever and heart problems afterwards, the other one had meningitis, iirc. So I had my children vaccinated with everything the doctors had to offer, according to the recommendations. I've never regretted it.

Maybe using the david icke link would be excessive . I can just never learn that poking something gently with a stick , can be more effective than hurling in a couple of hand grenades .

Who mentioned lego?

http://gracetace.tumblr.com/post/172186012/fifteengreen-jan-vormann-repairs-buildings-with

Now THAT is engineering and fun combined.

That would have been me I've just spent several fun minutes building a lego spider...while playing Guitar Hero

Cool repair, if only I could find somewhere to to do that...

* removes the extra 'to' *

*hides it behind the aspidistra*

Oops, sorry Mysterious Stranger!

I've been known to leave internet forums because i believe life is too short to spend my spare time aruging with idiots.

Ooh the polio vaccine on a sugar cube was a live vaccine and so more dangerous than the modern injected one..

I remember the 'Sugar Cube Polio Vaccine'

You had to crunch the sugar cube, otherwise the vaccine fluid tasted horrible!!!



GT

In my early school years, I recall a health nurse coming about every second year with a TB test. A teeny bubble under the skin of the forearm. I think they ended around 1970 or so. So far as I know, the first actual vaccinations I met of any sort were early into military training, in '77. Mind, that was also when I met my first dentist. Annoyed him to no end that I had no previous treatment, and not a problem for him to deal with.

I think I had the sugar cube vaccine. Or maybe that was something else...a paper cup of sweet-ish liquid? What was that?

fg, we had that lovely round pricker in the shoulder. Although that may have been for a different vaccine?

You might want to point out the egregious grammar error in the very first sentence. Just saying. If you want to convince me of the seriousness of your argument, your grammar counts. Just saying!

I had the Salk vaccine first, and then several years later the sugar cube. And my last smallpox vaccination was in 1969. Still have my proof somewhere, for international travel...

We had the round pricker - can't remember what for?, and the sugar cube polio one. I can still remember the school corridor they were dispensed from

*is aware of using punctuation rather creatively*