h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

just popped in to say i directed a new researcher here from collective
who named popped up from old thread

post 42 just jokeing lil

*Enters, looking extremely cheerful*

I certainly support not reacting to trolls, be they living or stone, when they arrive.

I'm not sure where I stand on the emotions discussion, though. Call me Edward Tivrusky IV, but I just can't see myself permitting some emotions and not others.

However, if I decide to just not show any emotions at all to trolls, that would certainly meet both criteria, wouldn't it?

Oh, and hello, Seth! Nice to meetcha.

Lil, I think the subject of emotions is very appropriate right now. I know from personal experience how destructive anger can be. I haven't read Ekman, but I recognize the concept of attachment causing negative emotions.

Throughout our incident I asked myself if I was over reacting. The answer was always yes. So intellectually I recognized that my anger was perhaps unreasonable and was tied to self-esteem issues. But I was still angry. What I need to learn how to accomplish is emotional detachment. Otherwise the situation with the smellfungus is going to do me in. It is making me physically ill.

Affy, you and Garius did a lovely job! Thank you ever so much!

No problem. Pushing the button to send in some worker robots to do work for me is just part of the job.

Hmmmm... my

1) About not reacting to trolling and flaming - could we have a punch ball and some boxing gloves in one of the nearby rooms?

5) More substantive discussion - one of the reasons that I thought that the backlog at 64X felt like a Sisyphus task was that at times it *was* quite substantive - and how else would we have gotten to know each other unless we had shared those tidbits of everyday RL problems/rants/joys?

*realizes that something is missing*

*drifting off*

Affy, was it you or Garius who installed that think it, write it program on the computers back there? It's lovely. I just sit here in comfort, it it picks up the thoughts it needs, and does my paper for me.

*retrieves her work from the printer*

oh, this is just fabulous, really terrific!

As others, I agree on the no reaction to flame/trolling.

Good to meet you Seth.

Regarding emotions. I agree that most emotions come from attachment. I am attached to an idea, so when that idea is threatened I will react. It explains the reaction from the last thread, as we are attached to the Atelier so when it is threated we react emotionally.

Regarding the rename, I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Courtesy

*returns, carrying Mindspring and Ripley*

*gently puts down the two sloths on the rug in front of the fire place*

*retreats to a sofa*

*waves to Seth*

Emotions, crikey, I'm a Cancerian: emotional reaction instantly, rational thought about 4 hours later!

I know nothing about Eric Hopsbawm, I was brought up on AJP Taylor, moving on to Michael Woods. I shall have to do some research before I can answer constructively.

However, H has worked with an enormous Japanese conglomerate, and the biggest thing is not losing face. If someone gets told off for any kind of a c*ck up, the whole office gets copied in on the email, humiliation is the name of the game.

*Shuffles in and finds a quiet seat in the corner* Substantive conversation? Yeee. I'm about as substantive as a wet tissue. Anyhoo, sit and listen.

Not really sure what I can add to the discussion on emotions other to say that I am ruled by them. I am constantly pulled in various dierctions by my emotions. I can be flamingly angry one moment and then nearly in tears the next. I am a passionate person, which causes certain reactions of mine to be a bit over the top (any of you who have read my rants regarding microsoft know this). I rarely play close to the chest in person or online.

Some day I will learn to have controll over my emotions instead of them having controll over me. It just may take a few decades.

Hallo, Seth, welcome and please join in! That reminds me, Ivan the Terribly Average showed up just as we closed last time, and so did Teuchtel; I must contact them and let them know we're back.

Marv and Caer, Ekman agrees that some personalities seem to have stronger emotional reactions than others. And of course one has to avoid any implied value judgement in that, one way or another, that it's good or bad -- such a judgement is tied to cultural factors, as has been described.

Now Paul Ekman has come up with some interesting physiological facts based on a muscle-by-muscle analysis of the human face, and one of those is that, if you carefully arrange your facial muscles to replicate an emotional expression, you will begin to feel the emotion associated with that expression! Using electroshock needles, he has taught himself to voluntarily control ALL of his facial muscles, which I think is pretty amazing. And incidentally, he says the Dalai Lama has the facial muscle tone of a 21-year-old.

So maybe emoticons aren't as silly as some people think, in that they temper our speech simulations here with basic signals for appropriate expressions.

Back to anger, my opinion is that having the feeling of anger is one thing; recognising it is a second, and managing it is a third. And perhaps the problem we have with some researchers is their failure to recognise the anger in themselves, or to deny it outright.

ltp, re post 42: <--- anger management

Clarification: I said, " And perhaps the problem we have with some researchers is their failure to recognise the anger in themselves, or to deny it outright." I should have said:

And perhaps the problem we have with some researchers is their failure to recognise the anger in themselves, or their tendency to deny it outright.

There. Now I have verb-subject wa.

Lil, do you not find that people who deny emotions or internalise things tend to have very destructive outbursts when the damn is burst? I know that those people I know who stifle all emotion always seem to blow up with often disasterous results.

ah but could not resist ,jump did it post 42 ltp everyone else rushes to be first ,me well......no did direct some one here from collective though not been seen by ace or guru,maybe as on collective.

Yes, that can happen. And you also see cases of people who are, for lack of a better phrase, coldly angry without knowing it. Sometimes they presume themselves to be quite objective. Pink Floyd's teacher in the Wall, might be a case in point, to reach outside our immediate environs. His "dark sarcasm in the classroom" is classic toxic anger unrealised in the self and projected onto others.

One hardly knows which is worse.