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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
Anything to do with the Phoenicians being great Mariners?
Nope.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
Some bible translator / commentator misinterpreted **something on a phoenician character? Like, the character's name meant something like 'full of water'** and the monk misunderstood it as 'the dry one'?
Not correct but you're so close I'm going to give that a DGI +1
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Taff Agent of kaos Posted Feb 13, 2011
is this some sort of mis translation of the bible
bibles were copied in monastaries and errors would creep in due to the monks own enviroment
the story of johnah, it was originally a big fish that swallowed him
but monks copying it in the isles of scotland replaced it with whale because they were familiar with whales
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toybox Posted Feb 13, 2011
A sickness related to water (like water retention, or something) which was mistranslated as something naughty (like syphilis)?
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
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gandalfstwin OGGMSTKMBGSUIKWIATA Posted Feb 13, 2011
Is this a misinterpretation of a Phoenician 'charactar' in a text that Monks were translating.
Dehyydration could be taken to mean 'shrink' here. A shrunken charactar could easily be misrepresented in translation.
Something 'lost in translation' so to speak?
GT
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
>>Is this a misinterpretation of a Phoenician 'charactar' in a text that Monks were translating.
Dehyydration could be taken to mean 'shrink' here.
Something 'lost in translation' so to speak?<<
Good thinking - something like that - DGI +1
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
I don't have a country to name.
and it's not rabies.
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Rod Posted Feb 13, 2011
Title: Happily Violence
... due to, happily, violence
?
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Geggs Posted Feb 13, 2011
So was the whole text that they translating in Phoenician or just this particular bit?
Because most of the Old Testament was originally in Hebrew (with a few notable exceptions like Daniel chapter 4).
And the New Testament was in Greek. Or at least the oldest surviving versions are in Greek, though I'm not sure if that were translations as well.
Geggs
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Geggs Posted Feb 13, 2011
>> "invite great anger"
Hmmm. Would that be wrath? Or - more obscurely - choler? That word only appears twice in the King James Version of the Bible, and both are in the book of Daniel. The second instance is in Daniel chapter 11, which predicts various battles between 'the king of the north' and 'the king of the south'. The names are used to define the kingdoms to the north and south of Israel, which appear to be fighting over Israel a lot at the time. And so in verse 11 we get:
And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.
Now I think of it, the north is generally thought to be Syria, so probably not. But I've written all of this now, so I'm going to post it anyway.
Geggs
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
Rod, "happily violence" this time *is* a clue - dating not from the 15th century but approximately 1900 - 1901.
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
No, a word is not missing.
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hygienicdispenser Posted Feb 13, 2011
Dammit, you started without me... Is the whole sentence :
"Why would someone looking to score big and with nothing to loose dehydrate a minor Phoenician and thus invite great anger"
a bunch of puns/mistranslations that, once sorted out, says something quite normal?
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Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. Posted Feb 13, 2011
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- 43: Taff Agent of kaos (Feb 13, 2011)
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- 45: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Feb 13, 2011)
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- 49: Clive the flying ostrich: Amateur Polymath | Chief Heretic. (Feb 13, 2011)
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