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Post 1

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

Entry: The Manhattan - a Cocktail - A1049591
Author: Gosho (it's pronounced 'nucular') - U147203

The research I had to do for this one was absolutely ghastly smiley - drunk but I think it's ready for review smiley - smiley

Thanks to Myers U170647 for providing the inspiration smiley - cheers


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Post 2

Cyzaki

Good entry - no glaring errors/things that need expanding on - I knew nothing about this subject (I've never drunk a cocktail in my life) and understood it all perfectly, and didn't feel any more information was needed.

smiley - biggrin


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Post 3

GreyDesk

I didn't quite understand the reference to Canadian rye whiskey. Do you mean that most Canadian whiskey is rye whiskey - ie they make other types as well. Or do you mean that most Canadian whiskey has rye in it therefore making it rye whiskey by the 51% definition?


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Post 4

McKay The Disorganised

smiley - yikes
From my bar-tending days - Manhattan - Shot glass half filled with crushed ice - add double measure of bourbon - measure of ITALIAN vermouth - 2 drops Angustura bitters and a sprig of mint,

That I was told was a Manhattan.

However our colonial cousins enjoy embellishment and adaptation and if ones customer was of obvious American extraction, then it was worth asking if they wanted Bourbon or Rye.

No right thinking person could use French Vermouth.smiley - cross

Good entry smiley - ok


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Post 5

sprout

Good entry - lots of detail.

Can't quite imagine the taste of this - must try it some time.

Sprout


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Post 6

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

Thanks smiley - cheers

I've not yet been able to verify that Canadian rye whiskies are 'rye' by the legal US definition GD, but I've reworded that bit to try and make a little more clear. Whilst doing the research for this entry I found several references to Canadian whiskies being rye, but no actual figures to back it up.


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Post 7

Trout Montague

Vintage Gosho.

(means I lke it).

DMT


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Post 8

GreyDesk

I don't know if this helps on the Canadian rye/not rye issue. Well my family over there always refer to whiskey as 'rye' in the much the same way we would refer to a vacuum cleaner as a 'hoover'.


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Post 9

Gordon, Ringer of Bells, Keeper of Postal Codes and Maps No One Can Re-fold Properly

Nice rescue, Gosho. smiley - ok

I think the section on "bitters" needs a little reorganization. I think this order might flow better:
smiley - star paragraph 2
smiley - star paragraph 1+3 (combine the two)
smiley - star paragraph 4

Cheers!

smiley - teasmiley - towel


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Post 10

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

I see what you mean Gordon. Consider it done smiley - ok


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Post 11

Pimms

Practically perfect Gosho smiley - biggrin

suggestion:
less common today as it once was > less common today than it once was
Pimms smiley - stout


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Post 12

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

I'll see to that one smiley - smiley


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Post 13

Gnomon - time to move on

Italian Vermouth comes in red (Rosso) and white (Bianco) varieties. Does it matter which one you use to make a Manhattan?


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Post 14

Gnomon - time to move on

You say 'Bitters are' but later on you say 'Orange Bitters is'. I don't know whether it should be 'is' or 'are', but it should be consistent.


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Post 15

Pimms

I don't think smiley - erm that this is an error Gnomon - the first time refers to bitters generally (and there is more than one type) so 'are' is appropriate, while with the descriptions of Angostura and Orange bitters individually, only one type is being referred to, so 'is' is appropriate. Of course I am assuming that there is only one type of Orange bitters being talked about.

It is a bit like 'innings' in cricket - looks plural, but is both a singular and a plural, and you can only tell from context which is intended (I nearly suggested this a typo in the cricket entry on the front page yesterday)

Pimms smiley - stout


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Post 16

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

Thanks Pimms, you've answered that one for me - nothing more to add smiley - ok

Regarding the vermouth Gnomon, you've got me there. I may have gotten it the wrong way round regarding which one is dark and which is light. I haven't made a Manhattan or worked in a bar for a long time, and now I've got a mental block on the matter smiley - headhurts

It's Rosso which goes into a Manhattan, not Bianco, and Rosso is red, so it's got to be Italian which is dark and dry, and French which is light and sweet... isn't it? smiley - erm Italian is the dry one, French is sweet... I'm sure of that, I think.

Ok, I have go to the liquor store tomorrow and refresh my memory. I need some beer anyway smiley - tongueout


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Post 17

Number Six

To my knowledge, Martini comes in Rosso (red), Bianco (white) and Extra Dry (still white, I think). Then there's Cinzano, which is also Italian and is white. I'm not sure I've ever come across French vermouth - I'll find out if someone chucks a brand name at me, I suppose.

Not sure exactly how much help I'm being, but there it is...

smiley - mod

Martini have one of the best logos and colour schemes in the world, if you ask me - just a shame I don't like the drink much! At the beginning of Jean-Luc Godard's 'A Bout de Souffle', there's a shot of a Parisian newspaper stand on the Champs Elysees with a Martini logo on the roof, and it's utterly utterly fantastic.


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Post 18

There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho

Noilly Prat, Dubonnet smiley - tongueout

Well, they *sound* French


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Post 19

Trout Montague

Dubonnet?


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Post 20

Trout Montague

That was a suggestion, not a question.


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