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It's Saddam, it's Bush
There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 4, 2003
Oops... hit the 'send' button before posting anything
Anyways, I've found it - the quote which prompted me to start off this whole thread. I hope it's not too long to to be considered as 'fair use' and therefore in contravention of the House Rules. The way I see it Bush wants to do what Thomas More's son-in-law Roper is saying - cut down all the laws to get at Saddam. Read on:
More: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law!
Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law!
More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you - where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast - man's laws, not God's - and if you cut them down - and you're just the man to do it - d'you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.
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DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Mar 4, 2003
Thanks, Gosho - is it from 'A Man for all Seasons?' (If not, forgive my ignorance.)
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There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 4, 2003
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There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 5, 2003
It's Saddam, it's Bush
Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Mar 5, 2003
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Mar 7, 2003
Something I read has me thinking.... it's Bush's argument that Saddam is choosing war. He does have quite a bit of a point there...
Maybe it's a laspe in judgment on my part, or maybe I've been eager for the finger of blame to point away from my country. But if Saddam did go into exile.... Wouldn't that change things drastically!??
Not that it would resolve very much. Saddam, like Bush, has many corrput mean beneath and behind him.
It takes two to tango, right!?? Yes, Bush is a really big problem. I know that. But maybe he has a point!!!!
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anhaga Posted Mar 7, 2003
and, if Mr. Arafat is disliked, would he have to go? The king of Nepal? The Queen of United Kingdom? Externally imposed regime change is a slippery slope, especially when it is unilateral. It brings us back to the "american imperialism" thread. But, I'm fed up with all of this. Saddam is a foul guy and every one knows it. Mr. Bush is a foul guy but pretends he's the leader of the righteous free of the world. Saddam has a couple of firecrackers and a flu virus. Mr. Bush has nuclear weapons he's on record as willing to use against Iraq and the largest stocks of biological and chemical weapons in the world. I'm fed up with all of it. It's Saddam and Bush, but Bush can kill us all with a word. Saddam can talk a lot.
I'm fed up
It's Saddam, it's Bush
There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 7, 2003
Not too fed up to give up I hope anhaga, we need all the people we can muster to keep up the clamour against Bush and Saddam
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Mar 7, 2003
Yep... everyone Bush don't like has gotta up an' leave!!! Round em up!!! YEEEHAH!!! Thems the prob-lem, not us!!!
It's ugly. I know that. If you had as much power as Bush, you(general) might be tempted to show it off. I'm not justifying the jerk, but he's not exactly free of psychological and political pressures.
Can't easy being the leader of the strongest bully-- I mean-- country. You know our government is easily criticised (I'm not happy with it in the LEAST right now!!!). If we do nothing, then we should have done something. And if we do something, we're power hungry, corrupt, and have done far too much. I'm a critic from the inside.
We can't do anything right except jazz, artists, and writers.
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Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde Posted Mar 7, 2003
It's Saddam, it's Bush
anhaga Posted Mar 7, 2003
Maybe I'm dim, but I don't remember ever hearing anyone complain about the U. S. (government) minding its own business (except in the World Wars [but, of course, the Japanese managed to surprise them because they weren't minding their own business]). The question of "where was the U. S. when . . .?" comes up when they suddenly decide to intervene in a situation that is somehow analagous to a previous situation that it didn't intervene in. For example, "Where was the U. S. when the Taliban took over Afghanistan and started blowing up Bhudhas and executing and oppressing women?" does not mean, "oh gee, I wish the U. S. would be the world's policeman." It means "what has suddenly changed that makes them want to be the world's policeman?" and "Is my country next?" The UN should hire the world's policemen and the vetos should be scrapped.
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Xanatic Posted Mar 7, 2003
I would just like to quote a poster I saw on the side of a church down here. "It isn't the end of the world yet, not untill I say so anway - God"
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Mar 7, 2003
www.lemonbovril.co.uk - assorted silliness with a twist of lemon1.htm
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clzoomer- a bit woobly Posted Mar 7, 2003
Oooops...
http://www.lemonbovril.co.uk/
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The Artist Formerly Known as Nerd42 Posted Mar 7, 2003
I read the start of this thread, and I just want to say that it's s**t.
President Bush is a much much much much much better leader than Clinton!
I think people from the United States should show at least a LITTLE respect for the office of President at least, if not for the person occupying it. Most of the Republicans DID do that during the Clinton years, and THAT was really hard.
Saying Bush is as bad as Saddam is the most ridiculous thing I've heard for a very long time.
Nerd42
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anhaga Posted Mar 7, 2003
It didn't seem to me that Gosho was suggesting that Bush is as bad as Saddam. I got the impression that Gosho was saying that they both are dangerous, but dangerous in different ways, and that, perhaps, in the long run, the policies Bush is promolgating may be more damaging that Saddam's little pop-guns.
I don't know how your Constitution and your "offices" which demand such respect will weather the storm of Mr. Bush's administration. But I do know that Bush is more likely to damage my way of life than is Saddam. So if it's just a case of "interests", leave Saddam and bring back Clinton.
Anhaga
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There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho Posted Mar 7, 2003
It's Saddam, it's Bush
The Artist Formerly Known as Nerd42 Posted Mar 8, 2003
Ok, Gosho. People have used much much worse words at me just for expressing any sort of pro-war or conservative opinion, and all that's done is make me very angry and believe all the more firmly the way I do. I guess I was kinda blowing a little steam. Sorry.
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- 81: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Mar 4, 2003)
- 82: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Mar 4, 2003)
- 83: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Mar 4, 2003)
- 84: DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! (Mar 4, 2003)
- 85: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Mar 5, 2003)
- 86: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Mar 5, 2003)
- 87: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Mar 7, 2003)
- 88: anhaga (Mar 7, 2003)
- 89: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Mar 7, 2003)
- 90: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Mar 7, 2003)
- 91: Dragonfly. "A poet can survive everything but a misprint"-- Oscar Wilde (Mar 7, 2003)
- 92: anhaga (Mar 7, 2003)
- 93: Xanatic (Mar 7, 2003)
- 94: clzoomer- a bit woobly (Mar 7, 2003)
- 95: clzoomer- a bit woobly (Mar 7, 2003)
- 96: The Artist Formerly Known as Nerd42 (Mar 7, 2003)
- 97: anhaga (Mar 7, 2003)
- 98: There is only one thing worse than being Gosho, and that is not being Gosho (Mar 7, 2003)
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