A Conversation for Protest Against BBC Policy Over Iraq
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Dorian Gray Posted Apr 2, 2003
i guess thats a complement that i post well....hey its well not good. but you should see how many postings i've had rejected so i'm always "good"
Dorian
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SEF Posted Apr 2, 2003
Oh no! This thread has been hijacked by history buffs who want to talk about comparative war rationales rather than BBC policy. Quick somebody take them out before they crash the whole thing into the moderators' building.
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
Ditto...
I'm not a "good" boy... but I treat my important conversations with civility and good manner... now... where's my monkey butler, lol...
Serj
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
SEF... now for someone of your stature that was in severely bad taste...
Well it was...
We're having a discussion about cheese actually... lol...
it's our cover story for the MI5...
Did I hear anyone say Red Leicester???...
Serj
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Dorian Gray Posted Apr 2, 2003
man f**k policy and protecall its just a ploy to put liderated thinkers like you and me into little boxes controled by society.
Dorian
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
Dorian...
I live outside the box...
F**K SLAG ARSE...
see... not bothered if it's taken out...
They don't control me... they just take away my right to free speech... which is what we're "campaigning" for...
Serj
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Dorian Gray Posted Apr 2, 2003
what's age have to do with anything, esp what someone thinks, i've know 10 year olds to come uip with some brillient ideas.
Dorian
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
Dorian...
The "elders" think they know more than those who are younger than they are... It wasn't a dig at age... It was a dig at mis-representation and being treated like... 10 year olds... as 10 year olds are most of the times mis-understood and I mean... come on... every parents dream phrase is... respect your elders...
And like you say... you know 10 year olds to come up with brilliant comments... hell I know a 5 year old who is a comic genius...
They're just mis-understood...
And treated like inferiors...
well I'm off to my bed now, my brain is feeling a slight tikkle in it's frontal lobe lmao...
Ah, a little "Lithium" to go to bed to...
I'm so happy, coz today I've found my friends.......
Goodnight Sir Gray, lol...
Serj
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 2, 2003
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Stuart Posted Apr 2, 2003
>> SEF... And Mr. Gray and myself are under-21 years old... <<
Aye, and doesn’t it show.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument - that's assuming you know the facts in the first place.
Stuart
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Stuart Posted Apr 3, 2003
>> Oh no! This thread has been hijacked by history buffs <<
You want to get over to Opinions of War about Iraq thread. They are talking about Southern USA Blues Music there - I think, and before that it was the relative merits of coal and oil as a fuel.
Stuart
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 3, 2003
You don't like to nit-pick too much do you Stuart???... that's not too much of an obvious statement for an under-21 year old to make... is it???...
Please my obviously elder "superior" strike me down with your "facts of the day" for I am not worthy enough to recieve my OAP badge of facts... quite yet...
Oh... >>>no offence by the way...<<<
Serj
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Neugen Amoeba Posted Apr 3, 2003
"Neugen Amoeba
We are not talking about pre-emptive strikes here but treaty obligations.
Stuart"
You may be, I wasn't.
BTW Stuart, you seem to be suffering from a developing case of pretentiousness. In the interest of continued, open discussion, please seek treatment immediately.
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) Posted Apr 3, 2003
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
R. Daneel Olivaw -- (User 201118) (Member FFFF, ARS, and DOS) ( -O- ) Posted Apr 3, 2003
I came here to let it be known that A) I support your petition, and b) to explain my complaint about it. As to Spook's comment, I agree with your point. However, BBC is not requiered to give us free speech as far as I know. I wish they would give us more free speech, but I don't think we can consider ourselves to have a right to it here.
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Dorian Gray Posted Apr 3, 2003
bulls**t of course it's a human right. same as sex. right we wouldn't have vocal cords if we weren't expected to use them, same as i wouldn't have a p***s if i wasn't expected to use it.
Dorian
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Uncle Monty (nothing much going on here then) Posted Apr 3, 2003
Undoubtedly it is a human right. The question is, is it a right that the BBC must neccessarily extend to us on their messageboards? Clearly the BBC is itchy about swearwords and the like - however, they allow debate about Iraq on the BBC messageboards, so why it isn't allowed here is a mystery - seems somewhat inconsistent.
I would argue that the purpose of h2g2 is/ was to create a "community". As members of a community, we ought to have the right to free speech. Isn't that what our troops are supposed to be fighting for?
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Dorian Gray Posted Apr 3, 2003
dude, exactly isn't the h2g2 mission statement something along the lines of "a antempt to create a community in which the members can come together and share opinons and thoughts." they're just slashing down the sol purpose that h2g2 exists.
Dorian
Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
Stuart Posted Apr 3, 2003
You talk of Free speech as an absolute right to be exercised whenever you want, wherever you want and with whoever you choose. It isn’t and never has been and never will be, any more than sex is a right whenever you want, wherever you want and with whoever you chose although there are some people who seem to think that is an absolute right - they are usually called rapists. Just as the right to sex can be curtailed in certain circumstances in the interests of the majority, so can free speech As has been said before, there is a time and place for everything.
The reason why the present restrictions are in force are explained in the following.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/A735275
If you disagree with the policy, then complaining here is aiming at the wrong target. The people who set the policy are outside h2g2 and probably never read it. I you want to complain about a policy decision, you go the people that make the policy, not those that implement it. But, has been said before, it’s the BBCs ball and they set the game. If you don’t like the game, start your own game with your own ball. You are free to do that.
There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding about what exactly the BBC is. It is not like any other media organisation. I would go as far as to say that there is no other organisation in the entire world like the BBC. Because if its unique characteristics and the way it is constituted it has responsibilities that do not affect other media organisations. With responsibilities comes rights, just as with rights comes responsibilities. The two are inseparable although sadly the responsibilities bit tends to get ignored in rush to exercise perceived rights.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/bbc/charter.shtml
Neugen Amoeba
If this sounds pretentious, I am sorry. It is difficult not to be when presented with some of the juvenile things I have read in relation to this subject. During discussions on this subject I have received personal abuse twice. This suggests to me that I am hitting the right target.
Stuart
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Petition For The Right Of Free Speech About Iraq
- 221: Dorian Gray (Apr 2, 2003)
- 222: SEF (Apr 2, 2003)
- 223: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 224: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 225: Dorian Gray (Apr 2, 2003)
- 226: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 227: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 228: Dorian Gray (Apr 2, 2003)
- 229: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 230: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 2, 2003)
- 231: Stuart (Apr 2, 2003)
- 232: Stuart (Apr 3, 2003)
- 233: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 3, 2003)
- 234: Neugen Amoeba (Apr 3, 2003)
- 235: SerjTankian... Freelance Assassin for higher... (not hire) (Apr 3, 2003)
- 236: R. Daneel Olivaw -- (User 201118) (Member FFFF, ARS, and DOS) ( -O- ) (Apr 3, 2003)
- 237: Dorian Gray (Apr 3, 2003)
- 238: Uncle Monty (nothing much going on here then) (Apr 3, 2003)
- 239: Dorian Gray (Apr 3, 2003)
- 240: Stuart (Apr 3, 2003)
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