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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Dec 2, 2009
thanks for the info, ictoan i never mind hearing from you, but then this is paul's thread, so... - well, it used to be anyway
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 2, 2009
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 2, 2009
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Dec 2, 2009
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 3, 2009
But wouldn't mean more methane regardless of what sort of creature ate the cucumbers?
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 3, 2009
Is that because they eat more? If we limited their cucumber rations, maybe it would all work out okay.
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Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Dec 3, 2009
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Dec 3, 2009
they used to be called cowcumbers about 300yrs ago although the original old english was essentially earth-apples.
Which no doubt would have confused any anglo-gallic recipe discussions at the time.
I can just see the gallic confusion at trying to make mash with cucumbers
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 3, 2009
I can see how the French conquerors might have been confused, as apples (pommes) of the earth (terre) referred to potatoes in their language. But wouldn't the French have had cucumbers alreayd rgowing in their own country? What was the French name for that?
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 3, 2009
I saw that etymology. I thought originally that cu-cumbers just 'cumbered the coos'' = gave them a bellyache.
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Dec 3, 2009
Google suggests "Concombre" as the French word for cucumber.
Watching the Cucumbers grow (a dream)
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Dec 3, 2009
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Dec 3, 2009
yeah, it is. The old french is more like cocombre I think - came from the latin cucmis.
By the way do NOT google for "cucumber old french"
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Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Dec 3, 2009
Right you are. As a philologist, I suspect the following:
'cucumber' comes from cucmis, which is Latin. It's a gourd.
Now, Anglo-Saxons just had the word 'gherkin', because the German is 'Gurke', pronounced 'GOOR-keh'.
I'll bet a folk etymology is at work here. 'cu' is Northern English for 'cow', and it's Old English, too. 'Cumber' we already had, there are lots of places called 'Cumberland', in England and in America (Cumberland Gap).
This happens all the time. We make up our own reasons for a word.
Shakespeare notes that hoity-toity scholars of his day were insisting that the word 'abominable' had an 'h' in it, because it came from 'ab + homines'. which it didn't.
The 'earth apple' business is funny, because of course they didn't have potatoes back in the day (remember Falstaff saying, 'Let the Sky rain potatoes'? Which he couldn't in the 15th Century). So I'm thinking they just had to call *something* an earth-apple, even if it was green.
The Dutch call potatoes 'earth-apples', but what they did before, I dunno.
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