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Fraktal Daktyl

Post 141

Xantief

I envy them the simple life, but that's one helluva price to pay.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 142

Hypatia

Indeed. There is simple and then there is unnecessarily austere. My simple life includes electricity, running water and central heat and air.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 143

Lady Chattingly

From what I've observed, it may be easier for a woman to leave the sect than a man. I know of several couples who have not remained with the Amish group here. It is a smaller group and possibly not as self-sustaining as the ones in Lancaster, PA. and Amana, IA.

My wish that they remain Amish is simply because I hate to see the lifestyle die out.

Like Hyp, a simple lifestyle for me includes electricity, running water, AC and heat---and of course the computer. smiley - smiley


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 144

Leo


Really? I thought it was harder for a woman, since the men get their year out. But there could be more dynamics at work. There's more than simplicity - the sense of community is incredible. Kicking a young, fairly uneducated man out for a year, from the cozy Amish community into American dog-eat-dog, is probably well calculated to have him come scurrying back pretty quick.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 145

Xantief

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/dorset/6901543.stm

Woo-hoo!

Leo, yeah, I understand these young men are 16 or 17 when they're turned loose. They would need some outside help pretty quickly in order to make the transition.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 146

Phred Firecloud

Many of the place names (Soldatna, Ninilchik) here are Russian. The samall Russian communities are fragmented into Russian Ortodox, True Believers and Right Believers.

We purchased some of them as part od Seward's Folly. Those came over during the Czar's reign. Others migrated first to Oregon in 1917 and moved up here on grant money in 1967.

They use utilities but the men don't believe in shaving and the women and children wear strange traditional dress that tend toward orange colors. You see them shopping in the Safeway stores.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 147

Lady Chattingly

In our Amish community, they aren't exactly "turned loose". They are allowed to own a car and wear "English" clothing, but are expected to revert to the old ways once they join the church--that happens when they marry, as I understand it. They must then sell their cars and wear Amish garb. I asked my source about it and that is what she told me.


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 148

Hypatia

Phred, I wonder what they used to make orange dye? I've always felt sorry for people in tiny, closed ethnic groups. But I suppose if that's all they've ever known they wouldn't necessarily be unhappy.

We don't have any Amish here. We do have Minnonites. I would rather deal with them than with the Pentacostals. smiley - erm


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 149

cactuscafe

(slinks into home keyboard for fix of h2 panda smileys .. )

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda

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commercial break .................................

check the animated Firecloud Report ... Mrs Phred kayaking in the icebergs ... and the dirtroad trailvideo from inside the RV ... totally cool ......

we are trying to figure out how to leave comments on aforementioned Bobsite-blogsite ... to say hullo and then write some dusty road lyrics about trails we have only seen in photos smiley - musicalnote ...

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not sure what the Cerne Abbas fertile fellow will make of a smiley - donut-brandishing Homer Simpson, Steve ! the Long Man of Wilmington recently featured in a similar downland-graffiti situation ...

strangely, it brings out the rather defensive, earnest almost-but-not-quite-Pagan in me ... a most worrying situation .. smiley - laughsmiley - biggrinsmiley - laugh

all the best with the psychotherapy, bro .... I had a therapist for many a year .. .. good for exploring new views on the inner landscapes, ... a trusted guide on the trail ...someone to hold the flame for a while if the shadows get too dusky ..

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yes .. sects and groupings ... perhaps they are different when lived from the inside ... I feel compelled to run from all such situations .... a staring Steppenwolf peering in from the outside, through the cracked windows of a belonging I will never know ..

smiley - fullmoon whoooooo arrrrgh whooooooo (that was a primitive almost-Pagan, howl ...)

its the cults that scare me most .... some dude arrives on the scene ... flexes his muscles and his charisma ... announces he is love or truth or something ... and presto .... stolen dead-eyed souls wandering around everywhere .. zero zombies ...

that's my rather jaded take .. from jaded personal experience ... re losing a friend to aforementioned situation ...

can't speak for all ............

can't speak for anything ..

can't speak at all .... need supper ...

panda smileys ... I need panda smileys

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda

guess there are worse addictions ...

H smiley - runsmiley - runsmiley - run



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Fraktal Daktyl

Post 150

Hypatia

Nice to have you back at your keyboard, oh great panda goddess. smiley - smiley

Cults are scary. They prey upon people's insecurities, fears and loneliness in order to pull them in. I like to think I wouldn't get involved with them, but we never know, do we? I mean we are part of the hootoo cult already. smiley - silly


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 151

cactuscafe

quite so, luvvy ... scary indeed .... I had an eye to eye run-in with onesuch cult leader ..one of the coldest, most ill-mannered, darkly charismatic people I ever met ... I had reason to tell him exactly what I thought of him .... most of his victims are, as you say, vulnerable, lonely searchers ....I (and fortunately many others) think he abuses their innocent hungry spirits ... some have escaped, but many remain forever hooked .... he continues to prosper to this day ... feeding off the money and eternal devotion of his followers ...

but, hey ..... I am just a an old singleminded smiley - blacksheep blacksheep ....so who I am to baaaaaah and bleat ........................


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all is well, though, in the h2 pandacult! smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda

???????????????????????????????? smiley - pandasmiley - panda ... yikes say the pandasmileys .. free us from this mad artist ...



smiley - starsmiley - starsmiley - starsmiley - star
smiley - starsmiley - chicksmiley - star


I owe a lot to the designers of these smileys .. thankyou smiley artistes for these beautiful little wonder-worlds ... a perfect artskool/playskool medium for one such as I ....

smiley - antsmiley - antsmiley - antsmiley - ant
smiley - antsmiley - wizard

hmmm .....

smiley - skullsmiley - skullsmiley - skull
smiley - skullsmiley - antsmiley - skull

feel free to proceed with your lives .... I might lurk here while I can, in my playskool, amongst smiley - ghost sensations ....

smiley - rosesmiley - rosesmiley - ghostsmiley - rose - ghost in the roses

smiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccinosmiley - skullsmiley - cappuccino - skull reflection in my cappuccino .........

smiley - marssmiley - mars ..... your burning eyes have the shine of two red planets ... your diamond tears fill my smiley - empty glass ....

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smiley - bunnysmiley - mousesmiley - bunny ... oh ... white rabbit in the guise of a mouse ... I have to go ...

H smiley - runsmiley - magic

smiley - ponysmiley - ponysmiley - pony ...... scuse me say the two small horses .. we need attention ..

go away small horses ... I have a life outside of you

??????????????????????????????????smiley - run








Fraktal Daktyl

Post 152

cactuscafe

<>>

what ??

should read ...so who to baaaaaah and bleat ...... this blacksheep speaks backwards sdrawkcab ... this sheep needs smiley - cappuccino

smiley - blacksheepsmiley - blacksheepsmiley - blacksheep
smiley - blacksheepsmiley - sheepsmiley - blacksheepsmiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccino


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 153

Phred Firecloud

Joins the smiley - panda cult...

Jim Jones, David Koresh...It's people like that that give cult leaders a bad name.

Just don't ask me to drink the Kool-aid, Take up arms against the ATF or buy a roll of quarters for a smiley - magic Kosmic street-car ride on the Hale-Bopp express.

Yes, Virginia...We actually live inside a sphere filled with black dust clouds that whirl around producing night and day...

What is it about bears? Panda bears, Teddy Bears, Brown Bears, Black Bears, Grizzly Bears...bears everywhere...

Anybody here old enough to remember the "Big John and Sparky" radio show?

smiley - musicalnote If you go down in the woods today,
Be sure and not go alone.
For every bear that ever there was,
will gather there foe certain because,
Todays the day the Teddy Bears have their picnic smiley - musicalnote

http://community.webshots.com/slideshow/559936408OJrezK








Fraktal Daktyl

Post 154

Leo


How's this for a good cult?
A2181638


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 155

Phred Firecloud

That's a great link...before the summer is over, I expect the tribe to regather in San Francisco..."Love is the Answer"...what is the question?


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 156

cactuscafe

smiley - laughsmiley - biggrin yay ...... and hey .. ...and good morning splendid peoples .....

linkin' thinkin' winkin' peoples .....

I am bear--ly awake ....

need smiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccino

H smiley - pandasmiley - antsmiley - panda
smiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccino



Fraktal Daktyl

Post 157

cactuscafe

yes .. what is the question ?

I need questions, said the barely awake bear ..

I need smiley - ants said the question ...

smiley - cappuccinosmiley - cappuccino








Fraktal Daktyl

Post 158

Phred Firecloud

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda

Bearly awake....smiley - laugh

It's 3:30 AM Alaska Daylight savings time....no wonder you're tired.

Pulls on long black boots...examines fly rod...

Goes out in search of vegetarian fish...

smiley - love is the answer...

How's your day going young H?

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 159

Leo


Vegetarian fish, yum! I like vegetarian fish. Especially with a bit of lemon on the side. smiley - drool


Fraktal Daktyl

Post 160

cactuscafe

smiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - pandasmiley - panda
smiley - panda grizzly smiley - panda

drink the Kool aid ! drink the Kool aid !

what ?

smiley - cappuccino

one ticket please for the Kosmic street-car ride on the Hale-Bopp express ! smiley - star

what ?

smiley - cappuccino yay ..... smiley - star before brekkie ? OK

fishing at 3.30 am ?

what ?

vegetarian fish ?

what ?

smiley - cappuccino

tofu-trout .. butterbean-bass .... smiley - fishsmiley - fishsmiley - runsmiley - run

talking of putting my brain to bed for its summer holidays, which I appear to have done ... someone just wrote The Rough Guide to the Brain ...

you know the Rough Guide series ? the bible for independent travellers .. The Rough Guide to Thailand, Mexico .. everywhere .. very good for warnings ... 'don't go to this beach .. even the halibut will steal your wallet' (especially the vegetarian ones ..) smiley - fish

smiley - star

'we recommend the rocky cove just south of the downtown brain-beach .. excellent for naked-no-brainers ...'

'stay clear of the eastern side of the brain-city .. full of dealers and orange peelers and grey/white wrinkled jelly stuff ...'

'where to get the best smiley - cappuccino .. Cafe Neuron (in the art-part) '

'go read the book Helen ... you need it ... OK'

smiley - star

smiley - star

here it is ... (for the real, intelligent information .... )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6642719.stm

smiley - star

smiley - ponysmiley - pony (goes back to sleep)

H smiley - kiss




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