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Has Rock Become Meaningless?
Rudest Elf Posted Jun 30, 2011
I remember having the Marshall Tucker Band album sometime before I went to live in Australia (late 1974) - couldn't take much music with me in those days, of course. Sure like 'Sweet Home Alabama', although I have no idea about their latest stuff. What's the album called?
While I was taking a link from YouTube for Sweet Home Alabama, I couldn't help noticing a song with the highest number of views I've ever seen**, a staggering 230,298,736! 
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama
http://www.goear.com/listen/1bd90f8/sweet-home-alabama-lynyrd-skynyrd
Miley Cyrus Party in the USA**
http://www.goear.com/listen/d79003a/party-in-the-usa-miley-cyrus
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Magwitch - My name is Mags and I am funky. Posted Jun 30, 2011
I'll see your Sweet Home Alabama and raise you - Skynard Nation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Q18RibGE4
The album was never out of the car last summer...
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Rudest Elf Posted Jun 30, 2011
Great track! 
Don't know why but it made me think of Little Feat, so I'll see that and raise you 2 Feat tracks 
:
Little Feat - Skin it Back
http://grooveshark.com/#/search?q=skin+it+back
Little Feat - Down the Road
http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Down+The+Road/E6wgo?src=5
Little Feat - Feats Don't Fail Me Now
http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Featsdon+tfailmenow03+Skin+It+Back/2pzw8g?src=5
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Rudest Elf Posted Jun 30, 2011
Erm..
This is Feats Don't Fail Me Now
http://grooveshark.com/#/search?q=feats+don%27t+fail+me+now
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 1, 2011
SANTANA
Black magic woman
http://www.goear.com/listen/797cc7b/black-magic-woman-santana
Soul Sacrifice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F3Cjr32QyI
Evil Ways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYGzRGOSeI0&feature=related
Samba pa ti
http://www.goear.com/listen/615402d/samba-pa-ti-santana
Oye Como Va
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v13JAf6Oohc&feature=artist
Jingo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OR4QLHnLF0&feature=related
Aqua Marine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDfKVud9H6U
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 2, 2011
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
http://www.goear.com/listen/0cb397c/pretzkel-logic-steely-dan
Steely Dan - The Fez
http://www.goear.com/listen/b2fde21/the-fez-steely-dan-
Steely Dan - Night By Night
http://www.goear.com/listen/d9c41b5/night-by-night-steely-dan
Steely Dan - Do it Again
http://www.goear.com/listen/750181c/do-it-again-steely-dan
Donald Fagen - IGY
http://www.goear.com/listen/9dbb8fd/igy-donald-fagen
Donald Fagen - Ruby Baby
http://www.goear.com/listen/1568f16/ruby-baby-donald-fagen
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 3, 2011
Kim Carnes - Draw Of The Cards
http://www.goear.com/listen/efd190d/draw-of-the-cards-kim-carnes
Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer
http://www.goear.com/listen/0fb5bff/sledgehammer-peter-gabriel
wild cherry - Play That Funky Music
http://www.goear.com/listen/12de867/play-that-funky-music-wild-cherry
Kool & the Gang - Get Down On It
http://www.goear.com/listen/dd543ff/get-down-on-it-kool-and-the-gang
Joe Walsh - Rocky Mountain Way
http://www.goear.com/listen/6ddfb03/rocky-mountain-way-515-joe-walsh
Joe Walsh - I Like Big Tits
http://www.goear.com/listen/ec889a5/i-like-big-tits-joe-walsh
Gary Moore - The Supernatural
http://www.goear.com/listen/70b87de/the-supernatural-gary-moore
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jul 3, 2011
You have very eclectic tastes Rudy!
The one consistent factor is in the quality
of musicianship and production values. That
little known Kim Carnes tune for example isn't
much of a song in its own right but the guitar
and sax solos are worth waiting for.
~jwf~
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 4, 2011
Yes, the solos and the compelling rythm.
I should probably explain this relentless exhibition of self-indulgence... 
For now, I will just say that (apart from teasing Ed by showing examples of music he claims to abhor 
) I have been trying to recall sounds from a record collection, some of which is stored more than 1,000 kilometres away, the rest (300 of the first albums I owned) were stolen because, in those days, I was naive enough to place my trust in 'the kindness of strangers' [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxGN29njs3Q ] - a long, sad story. 
Anyway, it is clear from what I've posted to date that I don't think 'pop' music is trash. Whoever believes that it is should make clear their definition of pop music.
I have to say that I am disappointed that other researchers have not been prepared to stray off-topic by offering some of their own favourites.
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Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee Posted Jul 4, 2011
My! What a backlog. Some OK stuff, others...less so. But within certain limits Im comfortable with that: It would be terrible if we all liked the same stuff and quite possibly some stuff that I think I dont like I simply havent Got yet*. Saul Goode.
But Im wondering...is all this stuff Rock? Or are we yet prepared to admit that what we call Rock (n Roll)/Pop is, in fact a fuzzy continuum in which categories elide into one another? I mean take Beefheart**, for example. *Definite* references to Doo-W*p and James Brown in there. This Rock (n Roll)/Pop thing is *meant* to be a mashup. Where would we be if Dylan, The Beatles and Brian Wilson werent ripping each other off all the time? (And all ripping off their African-American forebears).***
Youre right about Coldplay. The very mention of the bland soulsuckers throws me into a conniption fit. THAT'S NOT MUSIC!!!
* Although I *do* think Im experienced enough to speak authoritatively on the awfulness of Queen, Yes and Genesis. Misspent youth. 
** It is my belief that Beefheart wasnt *trying* to make a difficult cacophony. To his gloriously demented ears, that shit sounded like Pop!
*** Did you hear about the Oasis tribute band? Ripped off all their material from The Bootleg Beatles. Fine. But in the early days at least, werent The Beatles a Little Richard Tribute act? Discuss. (And on Abbey Road, they were channeling The Band)
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Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee Posted Jul 4, 2011
RE:
>>For now, I will just say that (apart from teasing Ed by showing examples of music he claims to abhor
Doesn't work, Im afraid. 
My tastes are somewhat catholic and I abhor little (and only with good, properly argued reasons. 
). All Im suggesting is that there isnt a Pop/Rock dichotomy...and even at the ends of the continuum its daft to say that one end is superior to the other. But you seem to affirm this vigorously with your own selection.
Ill need a little more convincing about George Benson, I have to say. And definitely about Sade. But, Hey - Im fine with that. De gustibus thingy wotsit.
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 4, 2011
"I'll need a little more convincing about George Benson, I have to say. And definitely about Sade."
I have no idea what you have against the very 
Miss Sade - one thing's for sure, I won't be attempting to convince you, and to my mind (and many millions of others), there is no need at all to defend the brilliant George Benson - I have a couple of tapes (somewhere) of his superb live performances.
"I'm wondering...is all this stuff Rock?"
Not at all - as explained in an earlier post, I happily admit to gross off-topicness. 
"Where would we be if Dylan, The Beatles and Brian Wilson weren't ripping each other off all the time? (And all ripping off their African-American forebears)."
Surely, that's just the way of the world. Does it matter, anyway, if 'good' music is produced as a result?
Has Rock Become Meaningless?
Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee Posted Jul 4, 2011
We agree then.
Also...nothing against George Benson. ~A stranger is a friend you havent met.~
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 4, 2011
Apropos of nothing:
Julian Avalos - Guajira Bonita - Julian Avalos
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 4, 2011
I can see now why some Researchers call the moderating around here idiocy.
Anyway, the track is available on Goear.
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Isa Newlands Posted Jul 5, 2011
I don't recall these been mentioned here before, But surely -
AC/DC - Back in Black,
Anything by Janis Joplin & god's gift to onanists (a big fat
here) Tom Waits are timeless.
These should be exempted. That is all.
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Rudest Elf Posted Jul 5, 2011
Ed, you said (somewhere, recently) that there is more to to a song than the words.
That came to mind while I listened to this:
Ricky Lee Jones - Last Chance Texaco
http://grooveshark.com/#/s/Last+Chance+Texaco/3g6kF6?src=5
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Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee Posted Jul 5, 2011
Ha!
That song featured in the first modern dance performance I ever saw (by Ballets Rambert)
btw...what *does* ~How come He wont P L P with me down at the meter no more?~ mean? If anything. Come to that - what are Pantages?
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Not the monkey - Skreeeeeeeeeeeee Posted Jul 5, 2011
Its all come flooding back (from memory! havent even clicked the link)
He tried to be Standard, he tried to be Mobil/ He tried living in the World and in his Shell...
Downstairs at Dannys All-Star Joint/ Theyve got a jukebox that goes doit doit/The vice is nice it stays in the back all day...
I know what Im going to be listening to later. 
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RadoxTheGreen - Retired Posted Jul 6, 2011
No offence, I'm going to do something I hardly ever do, but only because of the amount of posts (and web sites) I'm trying to keep track of. I'm going to from this conversation. Laters people...
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