h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Ignoring the semantics/syntax of the thread title , I do find the concept that there is... shall we say another realm which science struggles to define, but cannot completely ignore either, fascinating.

I always think of time as an example. We have rules about how clocks work. There are true statements about what time it is, and how long things have taken. But essentially these are just rules we've made up. Of course rules based on the occurance of events in nature, which appear logical - but that is assuming we are dealing with a logical universe that necesarily does things in the right order, or at the same speed - and assuming that everyone experiences those things at the same time. A clock is merely a model of time. Many times I have experienced time going faster or slower, and yet the time elapsed in the terms of the clock, is constant. This phenomenon is so familiar, that we ignore it, and think it irrelevant. But we do /experience/ time differently at different points. And that's the significant point. And essentially all our lives are based around our experiences via our senses - our sensory input. But what if our experiences are not only affected by the world we can touch, taste, feel, see and hear - but if these things are only our interpretation of these things (to use a Douglas Adams term) and we are pertrusions in to this reality. Maybe we're really mice - or words to that effect.

Other than general trends, I don't have any ghost stories. But I am fascinated by the concept that perhaps most of us don't see beyond the end of our noses at these things, because perhaps we are constrained by our senses. A red colourblind person, can't see red. And similarly a human will struggle to see beyond his natural senses - unless there is another force "breaking the rules".

Nice topic.

Thanks, Terran.
I happen to be red-green colourblind (like 2% of humanity) myself.

The individual sense of time, our collective definition(s) of time, and the place of time in physicists' understandings of things are all interesting topics that can be handled from many angles, some of which could find a reasonable place in this discussion thread. So it's good that you bring it up.

I do hope the world at least turns out to be logical.
One of the problems with having a super-powerful intelligence in the background is that one is potentially subject to its whims.

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julzes

i yikesed your post

have a bit of consideration and leave him alone

you hit a nerve, i wont go into it, just

stop it ok

In the mean time, the thread referred was two links given to other threads demonstrating a possible supernatural occurrence here in the world of hootoo. Without being overly specific--moderation, you see--in one thread a discussion was started concerning science and its pace of relevant discoveries. This brought up a person who is aged and the concern about his mental well-being. The other conversant accused me of insulting him and hiding behind a disabled person, and then he left the stream having been yikesed. Upon my checking to see if he had really left, I found that he had a stream on the subject of the elderly person's Ph.D. thesis. The stream was activated on my birthday, inactive since then until 18 hours ago. The Ph.D. subject was a certain author's sense of time.

your doin it again

This stream is about the supernatural, and the yikesing of the earlier posting interferes with a fair discussion of the topic. Moderators, please sort this out by reading the initial link that was given there. The supposedly abused person appears to have been abusive toward me first, and his claim of having been abused in return sounds disingenuous.

Taff: I don't see how my honest discussion of things is insulting anyone or harming them in any way. Your friend is just going to have to become as thick-skinned as me.

this thread is about your view of the super natural, yes, but others personal journals are that, personal, you were asked not to link to it by its owner, yet you did any way , why

because you saw some coincidence in dates as evidence of

your actions at the moment can be compared to the annoying drunk in the pub, who insists in butting into every conversation, even when he is not welcome, and inveriably is the cause of a fight that gets others thrown out, while he wanders off to annoy others and cause more trouble

ok explain faster science???

He asked me to not post to it and to remove it from my space. I'm sorry, but I thought people should be free to read the little thing in his journal. Really, what was the harm in providing my little contemporary piece of evidence of the supernatural in this stream?

Faster science is focused science guided by immediate desperately asked questions requiring desperately quickly obtained answers. Like the Manhattan project.

For the record, I have tried to Yikes post 89 on the grounds that it is defamatory toward me.

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so what are you doing about it?????

have you read this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/HouseRules

foot note 1

you upset someone and then go and hound them in their journal and then post links to it when asked not to

come on, play the game, this is the BBC after all

Well, right now, I'm opening eyes. You're talking to someone who attempted suicide over ten times. What all do you want? My goal is to be a gerontologist and then eventually a Deputy Under-Secretary of State for East African affairs, but it would be nice if medicine and society would allow older people to live their dreams at later ages.

I'm not playing stupid games. What's your ing problem? I'm just trying to have this thread as complete as possible. If what's-his-name shouldn't be mentioned, consider it done.

I was not asked not to link to the thread in so-and-so's journal. I specifically said I would, and he said please don't post here and please remove it from your conversation list. If he really wanted more than for me personally to avoid him, he should have been explicit. I'll assume that what he would have wanted is what you have done so far, and consider it a dead issue.

This stream is for people to discuss the verbiage and concepts relating to things that are hard for science to explain and which are oftentimes fraudulent. It is also a stream for relating personal experiences where the risk is of being labeled delusional or a liar on the grounds those experiences are hard to account for without wildly improbable coincidences or far-reaching modifications of what is expected from nature. Some very interesting stuff from and involving people other than myself have cropped up and been related, but very little without my involvement. I'm looking forward to reading people's accounts directly here.

I will be continuing some of my personal story (largely involving numbers ) as the days go by. Happy 100th post.