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Dragons discovery

Post 21

Rod

Yerss, well.
'Interesting sites' indeed (Ictoan)
Fortean Times (Xanatic)

Still, this thread might be fun for a little while... but perhaps not in Peer Review!


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Post 22

Icy North

h2g2 isn't purely a scientific journal. Edited Guide Entries just need to be clear about what their facts are based upon and what is opinion or conjecture.

The subject of dragons has fascinated man since ancient times, and they appear throughout our mythology and culture. I for one look forward to reading an entry on this, and the fact that it is unpublished primary research makes it all the more interesting.


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Post 23

Br Robyn Hoode - Navo - complete with theme tune

I agree Icy, hence my suggestion that the writer be clear about how they present this information... I.e. Presenting conjecture as fact will attract negative criticism. Presenting it as conjecture, possibility and accepting it as theory shouldn't do.


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Post 24

Seazoria

Want to thank you folks for taking the time to reply to the Seazoria Dragons postings. Anyway how are things going in jolly old England. I say that very respectfully. Over here in the colonies The skies are somewhat overcast but it is summer and shorts and tee shirts are the style. On a local not The Presidents jet plane Air Force one just flew over my house about an hour ago P-Bush has been here in Salt Lake City raising money for the republican party.

Could someone (fellow researcher) tell Seazoria the local time (gmt) I have been trying to figure out if Utah USA is 6 or 7 hours ahead. The local time here is 11:19 am

Spent three years living in Thetford Norfolk England so a special hello to anyone who may be online from that city. Loved the city of York.


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Post 25

aka Bel - A87832164

It's 6.49 pm in the UK now.


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Post 26

Seazoria

Hello Icy North Just read your comment and had to reply. What you said about the subject of dragons fascinating our species throughout time. Here is a reply from an insiders perspective. Dragons are supposed to be a product of mythology. However that is just not the case anymore. I have spent more than 10,000 hours on this subject. I never has a facination with prehistoric sea dragons until I discovered them. Working in Excavation we just kept digging the spectacular prehistoric marine reptile remaians out of the ground, daily. It took a long time to gain an indepht overall understanding.

After we collectively agreed that we had indeed made a legitimate discovery. We began contacting local paleontologists. We did not get the response we were looking for. In fact the response we got from our so called experts that even though a large group of people were all reporting the exact same prehistoric biological observations. The local paleontologists refused to drive the one hour from there office building to even come and take a look. we were stunned. Prehistoric biology doe's not get any more obvious than the Hallettestoneion Seazoria Dragons. Talk about blatantly obvious prehistoric sea dragons. The Seazoria dragons were frozen alive laying up right on their stomachs and chins. Basically the whole creature is laying there right in front of your eyes. Thousands and thousands of individual components. Skull, teeth, spikes, bodies, its all there. Just after 540 million years the petrified


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Post 27

Seazoria

ops did not get to finish the last reply. A mosquito landed on my hand and I pushed the wrong button while attempting to swat at it. Our house is located very close to the great salt lake. And thanks for the time check 7 hours. Do you observe daylight savings time in the UK.

To get back to how and why I was able to develop a somewhat comprehensive knowledge of prehistoric sea dragons. You see there are no expert paleontologist for this era of advanced prehistoric marine biology. And as some of the earlier commenter's have posted the text book reports that basically there was no advanced life in this era of earth history. Is what you don't realize is that scientific community does not even look for advanced life in this era.

The Science of paleontology is in its infancy, The first Land dinosaurs were found in the late 1840s and it took 30 years to get the first one out of the ground. Do not think for a second that the current paleontologists have already solved all the worlds prehistoric biological mysteries. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Current estimates put the age of the earth at four and a half billion years old. It would be completely simple minded of our species to think that we already have solve all the world prehistoric biological mysteries in the past 150 years.

Every time an institutionalized dinosaur paleontologists refuted our discovery we would immediately return to the Seazoria Dragon graveyards and tear more Hallettestoneion Seazoria dragons apart to obtain an even greater scientific, physiological, understanding in order to convey more intricate biological details to the paleontologists.


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Post 28

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

>> ...did not get to finish the last reply. A mosquito landed on my hand and I pushed the wrong button while attempting to swat it...<<

Darwin only had it half right, eh wot!
smiley - winkeye
~jwf~

BTW: I don't think anyone has yet told you that you can post links to sites in these conversations (they'll appear as hyperlinks) as well as on your home page if you use the Guide codes to make them hyper.

Funny how everyone jumped on your dating of these creatures as one sure proof of their non-existence. "Not possible at that point in time" they say. And they all sounded relieved to not have to think about it any more. smiley - bigeyes Typical of those whose Faith is put in Science.

I usually just like to scare these Fundamentalist Atheist types off with reminders that most (like 99.9% - they love statistics) of all the Life on this planet is too small for medium sized critters like human peoples to even be aware of. That thought begs the question of God's death. Hell, 17th century scientists believed that gravity was the 'love' all things felt for mother earth. The history of Science since is based on macho machinations of the female aspects of Nature or the infinite loop of proving things with numbers - which are nothing but human construct devices outside any real reality. But dragons I can understand!

smiley - dragon
~jwf~




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Post 29

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Is this really the place for this?


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Post 30

Effers;England.


Hey man, dragons are way cool, except when they breathe.....then I really get heated up.


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Post 31

BouncyBitInTheMiddle

I had a look at your website. Looking at the drawings and comparing them to the photographs, I must say they don't really match that closely. I think perhaps it may be a case of the pattern matching in the mind getting ahead of itself.

Consider that, if you looked a long time at clouds expecting to see life-shaped structures, eventually you would. Now obviously no-one expects this in clouds, but as it is with clouds, so it is with rocks (to a lesser extent).

So: because the photos don't seem very convincing, because the discovery dates to a time which would make it very unusual, and because dragons are cool and everyone would want this to be true and the effect that has on our minds, I'm going to say it seems very unlikely.

I am curious, if paleonolgists refuse to come and have a look, have you tried asking a geologist? Maybe show them around the site, show them the documents of what was found where, but don't ask them about the dragons until the end. Ask first for a general evaluation of what might have caused your interesting rock structures.

smiley - dragon


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Post 32

kuzushi

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It sounds very interesting, but I find my skepticism being roused for some reason. What is the address for your website?


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Post 33

Seazoria

Hello KUZUSHI I was not sure if if a member could add a link in this conversation forum. Seazoria has posted three journal entries at the Seazoria my space in h2g2. Those entries might provide some foundational information on the discovery. There is a live link in the posts. If not you can google seazoria and look for the entry called zoria home. Keep in mind these very large prehistoric sea dragons became extinct 540 million years ago according to the local geologists. The petrified remains have been reduced to dirt and stone over time. On the front page of the Seazoria dragon site you can see photos of skull, and re creative conceptual drawing by a Seazoria artists with field experience, Rod Zoria.

Also there is a tab called skull. you can see a 123 inch skull being excavated. only the right hand side of the duck-billed mouth has been excavated so far. The real proof behind the discovery is in the tab marked Zoria lab. This is where you can view photos of the zoria repeating biological structures. The tab marked teeth you can view the teeth excavated on the right side of the mouth. If you click on the image the photo will enlarge. In the near future I will go into the site and label all of the photos recovered from various Seazoria dragon excavations so that when a viewer clicks on the photo an explanation will appear identifying each of the specimen remains Tooth or spike and which excavation and species the specimen was recovered from. The lab tab is fun we included photo of incidental replacement teeth with their full size tooth. Seazoria Teeth and Spikes are represented in the lab. These are the specimens currently under examination in the Seazoria Dragon Laboratory located in Kaysville Utah USA.

Have fun KUZUSHI look at the shape of the specimens. This discovery is all about the zoria repeating biological shape/structure, a five sided triangular wedge. with 117 inherent common structural characteristic's. An attachment base growing to a specialized tip, always crowned on the outside face

www.seazoria.com is the address


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Post 34

kuzushi

http://www.seazoria.com

I'll look at it later, when I'm at home smiley - smiley


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Post 35

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

>> Is this really the place for this? <<

I dunno, is that really the place for that?
smiley - winkeye
~jwf~


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