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Post 17561

Baron Grim

Here's a rarity, a story about an international border agreement that doesn't make you smiley - grrsmiley - sadfacesmiley - wah or smiley - facepalm


Norway considers giving a mountain to Finland as 100th birthday present.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/28/norway-finland-move-mountain-halti-halditsohkka-highest-peak


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Post 17562

Recumbentman

Wot no Squirtles? smiley - tongueout


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Post 17563

ITIWBS

http://www.sliptalk.com/abandoned-missile-silo/

Definitely a worthy site for a massive EPA cleanup effort, though I frankly don't see how it can safely be done short of strip mining the facility away and restoring the terrain afterward.


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Post 17564

Baron Grim

Ok... this isn't from my favorite source, but I do believe this story has some merit.

The idea that Americans call the game soccer and that no one else does is a modern thing. I just didn't know how recent it was. According to the source in this article, y'all had no problem calling football soccer, you invented the term. But in the '80s y'all started feeling like the term soccer had become too Americanized and distanced yourselves from it.

Personally, I don't give half a smiley - bleep. It's all sprots to me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/soccer-not-football-_n_5492714.html


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Post 17565

Recumbentman

Silly stuff. It seems perfectly clear to me, being neither British nor American, that the only reason Brits object is in order to make the point that American Football has minority status in the world.

They know how uncomfortable mainstream USAers feel when they find themselves in a minority.


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Post 17566

Icy North

Personally, I think American Football is far more exciting than Soccer, and it's a great shame that we don't get it on terrestrial TV here in the UK (apart from the Superbowl).

I do remember some pretty pointless arguments about the name. Rather than being anti-American, they were probably just people who were afraid of any kind of change. Sadly, the game has changed out of all recognition since the 1980s, since the Premiership, tiki-taka tactics and FIFA rules banning all forms of contact, but people haven't noticed.


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Post 17567

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

From my side of the world to yours:

~ ~ Natural England issues licence to kill buzzards ~ ~

https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/natural-england-issues-licence-to-kill-buzzards-to-protect-pheasants/


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Post 17568

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

This is the URL I really wanted. I can never do it right the first time.

http://paper.li/PDX_Nature_Nut/1302640601?edition_id=cdc322f0-567c-11e6-98ed-0cc47a0d1605&utm_campaign=paper_sub&utm_medium=email&utm_source=subscription


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Post 17569

Icy North

Wouldn't it be easier to shoot the pheasants? I mean, they're only going to do that anyway.


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Post 17570

Recumbentman

Cycling in Yorkshire a decade or so back, I couldn't get over the number of pheasants I saw on the road, apparently killed by motorists. Are they issuing licences to shoot these predators too?


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Post 17571

logicus tracticus philosophicus

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense if there is an s after http it wont work....


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Post 17572

Orcus

Pheasants are - lets put this nicely - challenged in the intelligence department - they would give lemmings a bad name in the suicide stakes if they did it en masse.

I've had a pheasant just stare at my headlights before - then spend about 30 seconds - where you can watch its brain tick over 'shall I run left, or right, yes left, no right, no left!' before _eventually_ running off out of the way.

They don't really help themselves sadly.

Still can't say I approve of the usual - kill them all - tactics to solve a non-existent problem. smiley - rolleyes


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Post 17573

Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense

Thanks, Logicus, so much. I did not know to even notice the ~ s ~ .So does that mean that the link in Post 17568 comes up OK. I hope. .
smiley - bubbly . .. ...


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Post 17574

Baron Grim

N.B. Lemmings don't actually jump off cliffs en masse. That was a lie created by Disney. They do migrate in large groups and get killed by the hundreds crossing roads, which wouldn't look good in a made for children nature film, so instead, Disney film makers chased a bunch of lemmings over a cliff with loud noises and brooms.

Seriously, smiley - bleep Disney!


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Post 17575

Recumbentman

Disney did perpetrate it, and were found to have staged the scene, but the story was older than the 1958 film.


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Post 17576

Baron Grim

Not necessarily. The film makers may have confused migration with mass dispersal in response to population explosions. During these dispersals (which happen to many species populations, nothing unique to the lemming) lemmings may accidentally fall off cliffs or drown crossing water, but "mass suicides" didn't happen.


~~~~~
"Disney had to have gotten that idea from somewhere," said Thomas McDonough, the state wildlife biologist. Disney likely confused dispersal with migration, he added, and embellished a kernel of truth.
Lemming populations fluctuate enormously based on predators, food, climate and other factors. Under ideal conditions, in a single year a population of voles can increase by a factor of ten. When they've exhausted the local food supply, they disperse, as do moose, beaver and many other animals.

Lemmings can swim and will cross bodies of water in their quest for greener pastures. Sometimes they drown. Dispersal and accidental death is a far cry from the instinctive, deliberate mass suicide depicted in "White Wilderness," but Hibbler explains that life is tough in the lemmings' "weird world of frozen chaos." The voice-over implies that lemmings take the plunge every seven to ten years to alleviate overpopulation.

"What people see is essentially mass dispersal," said zoologist Gordon Jarrell, an expert in small mammals with the University of Alaska Fairbanks. "Sometimes it's pretty directional. The classic example is in the Scandinavian mountains, where (lemmings) have been dramatically observed. They will come to a body of water and be temporarily stopped, and eventually they'll build up along the shore so dense and they will swim across. If they get wet to the skin, they 're essentially dead."

"There's no question that at times they will build up to huge numbers," Jarrell added. "One description from Barrow does talk about them drowning and piling up on the shore."

Jarrell said when people learn that he works with lemmings, the mass suicide issue often comes up.

"It's a frequent question," he said "'Do they really kill themselves?' No. The answer is unequivocal, no they don't."
~~~~~

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wildlifenews.view_article&articles_id=56


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Post 17577

logicus tracticus philosophicus




yup Gingersnapper+Keeper of the Cookie Jar and Stuff and Nonsense means it will show as a clickable link other than highlighting the link as you would have to do in the link in Post 17567 and right click go to


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Post 17578

ITIWBS

Another issue driving lemming migrations is seasonal flooding of their burrowx due to melting permafrost in the muskeg.

Also, they are extremely near-sighted.


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Post 17579

Recumbentman

Hardly justifies the Disney crew in shoving them off unsurvivable cliffs with brooms...


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Post 17580

Bluebottle

Talking of rodents:
http://www.iwcp.co.uk/news/news/car-fails-mot-for-most-isle-of-wight-reason-ever-95645.aspx?mn=1

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