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Well, I think you should read some so you know where others have failed and avoid their mistakes.
C Hawke Posted Jul 22, 2004
No suggestions, but a bit worried about what sort of company GiGaBaNE works for - is it run by someone with a big white fuffy cat on his lap?
CHawke
Well, I think you should read some so you know where others have failed and avoid their mistakes.
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
actually the cat is black and called squish. the trush
Well, I think you should read some so you know where others have failed and avoid their mistakes.
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
LEVELISM?
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
does this apply when you look at the structure top down
society would be:
powered by business
protected by techno military/security/ambulance/police (all in one)
the objective ov every day life and heavily incentived, would be the evolution of science and technologies enforced by the business plan
LEVELISM?
Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jul 22, 2004
>thats the beuty of it. if your people are too unhappy, by law you have to pay all costs to transfer them to the country/company that suits them the most.
if enough people desert you the the system colapses, so it has to look after the people.<
So it's in my interests as leader of one of these countries/companies, to ensure that tyou want to stay. Much easier to corrupt the system and make sure people want to stay with me, however unhappy, by telling them that your country/company is even worse...
The system won't work. It still creates a vested interest for a leader to corrupt the system.
LEVELISM?
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
the only way it will work at the moment is for me to prove it can work then others can follow by example. no system has ever been perfect. but this one should hold on long enough whilst emerging over a few hundred years to really make a difference and thats what matters.
If with this system i can cure desese and death perminantly and also get us a couple of new planets then on a whole as a species we will find it an awfull lot harder to wipe ouselves out...
GiGaBaNE (of the 13th zodiac)
i dont believe in reincarnation, but i do believe in recycled thought proccesses, which is why i follow my starsign so vehemently.
it is in honor of the man who cured death then was taken from us by the "gods".
sounds a bit suspicious to me.
i know i will have an awfull lot of weapons pointing into outerspace.
LEVELISM?
Xanatic Posted Jul 22, 2004
You say the point of the society will be the advancement of knowledge and technology, and travelling to the stars. But what if that is not what your subjects want, perhaps all they want is a safe life with loads of consumer goods to entertain them.
LEVELISM?
You can call me TC Posted Jul 22, 2004
All systems are fine in theory until you populate them with real people. Then it starts to go haywire.
For example, according to popular belief, France would be lovely, if it wasn't for the French.
have you read any political philosophy?
Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge") Posted Jul 22, 2004
Why do you expect to be taken seriously if you've never read any political philosophy? How can you know you've designed a 'perfect' system if you have never exposed it to challenge by reading *anything* about political philosophy? Don't you worry that the combination of never having read anything and assuming that your system is 'perfect' leaves you open to accusations of ignorance and arrogance?
Presumably you *have* read something about economics?
have you read any political philosophy?
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
i have some economic and business skill. hehe
if my citizens didnt want to be reaching for the stars they wouldnt be my citizens. thats the point. when you decide to fly the coup you not only move from you family, but you choose what country you live in by your beliefs. remember that when the system is running, there is no rush to do anything and there are no pressures when you dont grow old.
depending on how it turns out childhood could end up being measured in centuries.
i know there will be some homesick problems when people live in different countries than their families, but this would be ofset by, free travel and good international relations.
obviously, with me i have closed borders because i choose the tech route and like i keep hearing there are a lot of ulterior motives out there.
i will help fix all human rights issues, but any other technologies will be protected to prevent misuse.
have you read any political philosophy?
Xanatic Posted Jul 22, 2004
I just want to quote something.
"Reach for the stars, but keep your feet on the ground."
have you read any political philosophy?
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
my response to that is why be happy with feet?
evolution
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
the thing i dont like is that there are no new wonders of the world.
with the current model all research has to be funded with a purpose.
my way give core sciences to work on and all surpluss monies are to reasearch customer ideas and scientist whims, subgect to terms of course.
i have acheivable plans for the terraformation of africa
i wish to geneticaly modify a version of the brasillian cherry tree for rapid growth to use in comercial sector.
one of the founding pricaples of this nation is 100% recycling. i will not explain this as i fear it being stolen before i copyright.
i intend to bann all fuels and plastics. based on non renewable scources.
have you read any political philosophy?
kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Posted Jul 22, 2004
Before you find other inhabitable planets, whose land on Earth are you wanting to use?
evolution
Xanatic Posted Jul 22, 2004
You can copyright a political theory?
So you know enough about genetics to know how to genetically modify a cherry tree? And what exactly do you want to change about it?
If all science should have a defined purpose, that would mean we would miss out on a lot of basic research I think.
And what are your plans for Africa, other than perhaps putting some icebergs in the Sahara.
evolution
Dibs101 Posted Jul 22, 2004
I can truly say that I have never in my life heard someone seriously put forward ideas like this. I'm amazed, truly amazed that a ming like yours has emerged.
evolution
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
icbergs in africa.
dont make me laugh.
i cannot at this time disclose the geographical location of choice or my methods of terraforming, but they are very real.
as to structured reasearch, did you mis the bis about customer ideas and scientist whims?
more to come. i have a wasp to deal with
evolution
GiGaBaNE Posted Jul 22, 2004
i have chosen a very unpopular area to take as my own, less than a quater of a million destitute people who i wish to elavate to 1st world skills or move them on with a huge bribe. those that simply will not move i will just wait out. there gonna die sometime.
the hard choices of political leaders all over the world since power began has been or supposed to have been about common good and sacrifice for the greater.
the fact of the matter is that without land i will never get into space to claim my own.
wherever i claim, i intend to give back as soon as i can get off this rock perminantly with all of my subgects who want to come.
at least i will make them millionares in there own curracies which is better than all other conquerers before...
BE WARNED USA KEEP YOUR NOSE OUT. NOONE IS HERE UNLESS THEY WANT TO BE.
any snooping will be cosidered an act of war purely on the basis that you are far too immature to handle the power you already have...
what belongs to my people is sacred and will only be given to those who can be trusted.
evolution
Dibs101 Posted Jul 22, 2004
I've hit on the perfect name for your Philosophy. It seems to have an air of the early Cretan concepts of Democracy coupled with poerful rulers, so why don't you call it Cretinism?
evolution
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