h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

you need the monkey

it connects the lizard to the angel

>>you need the monkey

it connects the lizard to the angel<<


Taff wins teh Interwebs!

Hi Warner,

>* Tries to please Gif by updating his 'Front Page' *

Bah, I am a jealous Gif and not swayed by petty trinkets such as... ooh, look, eyes !

Gif

Hi Taff,

>some insane hermit living in the desert with bad hygine

Yuck. If I were going to live in a desert, I'd pick a fragrant one.

Gif

Hi Anhaga,

Would be interesting to see whether Buddhists - with their emphasis on the unity of all things - score higher than atheists in the same tests.

Gif

Hi Mikey,

>You have a creative cut and paste function on your computer!

Easy there Mikey! The first sentence I quoted is from Post 13985, the second is from Post 13984. You did say both things. (I tried to indicate they were separate quotes by putting a seperate > for each, but perhaps that didn't come across. I should have used a [...] or something, for which I apologise.)

Anyway, the point remains. You have a problem with the sentence but believe what it's saying anyway?

>>You say:
>What? To believe that God created the universe and to believe in evolution and all the laws of physice and nature?

No, to believe God directs evolution and that evolution is an undirected process.

>Remember George Mueller? He received answers to his prayers for food in a more remarkable way than is the norm for most of us.

He seems to have had 'answers to prayer' in exactly the way I described - people knew he needed donations, and some generous people made them. He then (perhaps rather ungratefully) thanked God rather than those responsible. I don't see where the causal gap is that you are trying to fill using God - what does God actually *do* in this story?

>>>>>[Ed:] If we re-define god as something which sets off the unguided evolutionary process [...]
>[Mikey:] Perhaps God is beyond such defining, Ed!
>[Gif:] But if you can't even say what you mean by 'God', how can you possibly say whether or not you believe in it?>
>[Mikey:] Do I need to reiterate? The answer is to listen to Jesus' words.

Well, Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) clearly says that God intervenes in the world in answer to prayer. So in this instance, He's painly *not* 'beyond such defining', surely?

Gif

Hey, look!

It turns out that being gay will destroy mankind, and is a disaster on a par with tropical deforestation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7796663.stm

Gif

Not quite sure how that got in front of Mikey's name there! Not intended as some cryptic message, I assure you!

Gif

>>Isn't 'lager' German for 'light'?

Actually....German for 'light' is 'hell'. 'Lagern' is 'to store'. (The Germans don't call beer 'lager'.)

My point about the 'god-of-evolution' is that it's a hands-off god. That is plainly *not* what m1/2 et al believe in.

In fact, it's a redefinition of the word 'god' in an attempt to square the Darwinian circle. Unfortunately the redefinition is incompatible with the original.

Hell=*brightly lit* as well as *clear* in German, our hell apparently comes from old Norse mythology.

Hel was Loki's daughter, who was subsequently banished by Odin to Niflheim, the realm of mists, which lies beneath the third root of Yggdrasil, the world tree...

Since Hel now abides in Niflheim, and has dominion over all who do not die as heros, her name came to be associated with the place itself -- Hel

Unlike the fiery Judeo-Christian Gehenna, the Norse Hel is cold and dark...

.. much like it is around here right now

'Unlike the fiery Judeo-Christian Gehenna, the Norse Hel is cold and dark...'


ah, but was not the Judeo-Christian Gehenna a late (Hellenistic period, obviously influenced by Greek mythology) substitute for Sheol, which was originally nothing more than the grave, cold, dark, and after-lifeless?

Damned if I know..

Happy Holidays, everyone.


(The thing I find so ironic about the annual U.S. religious paranoia sometimes called 'The War on Christmas (tm)' is the whole 'Christian' fight against being 'forced' to say 'Happy Holidays' [cf. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,471764,00.html and http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,471744,00.html] is that 'Happy Holidays' means nothing other than 'Happy Holy Days' for those who actually have a rudimentary grasp of the English language. This [Protestant] idiots are getting all worked up because they want to say 'Merry Christ Mass' [a Catholic celebration] instead of 'Happy [Christian] Holy Days'. And we non-theists are quite happy to say 'Merry Christmas', even our Crown Prince Richard likes to sing carols, particularly the religious ones. I bought *two* Christmas puddings today, for goodness sake!)

Yes, Merry Christ Mass, Happy Holy Days, and may the New Year bring you all blessings (in the sense of happinesses rather than that whole blood sprinkling thing that is at the root of the word).

"Priest 'ruins Christmas' for kids

A Catholic priest has been criticised by parents in a city in northern Italy for telling their children that Father Christmas does not really exist.

The priest said he had never intended to hurt anyone, but it was his duty to distinguish the reality of Jesus from the story of Father Christmas which was a fable just like Cinderella or Snow White."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7798480.stm



az

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Not at the kids having their xmas ruined just the irony of the preists statement....

FB

Irony meters go SPOING.

http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/02/irony/
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/05/meter/
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2008/12/23/ploy/

Gif

Sadly you won't be able to get that irony meter fixed until after the christmas holidays...hope you won't be needing it!

Happy Christmas to one and all

Mikey2

If there is irony around on Christmas Day, I don't want to know about it. Merry Christmas all

Gif