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"If you choose athiesm as your "religion"....where do your moral values etc come from?"


I have to say that my moral values come from the ideal of treating others in the way you want to be treated and may well be influenced by religions (just because i don't believe in the god doesn't mean that religions don't have some good ideas.)

its good, i dont like the way that schools teach students about how one reliogen is right, i think the kids should be told the entire thing and let them decide, rather than telling them what is the right reliogen

I don't think that any religion should be taught in schools. Least not done using tax-payers money. If a religion wishes to employee teachers and set up schools for themselves and generally opt out of the current education system, then that's fine. What I do object to as a taxpayer is subsidising a religion's proselytizing.

i think all should be taught, as if non is taught then they only know what something is from upbrining and that could result in them not talerating religions unkown to them

But we cant just stop teaching reliogen, though i dont like it being taught in schools, even though i am atheist, i know theres chance that some reliogen might be true and its not right to depribe chidlren of the knowledge of reliogen as that could result in a lot of hell for everyone when they die

I think that there's a difference between 'teaching religion' (preaching) and teaching people about religion (information). I think that schools should teach pupils about all major world religions and about non-religious world views. I think that it's important to have a good understanding of the beliefs of others in order to be able to function in a multi-cultural society. This isn't the same as trying to spread those religions. However, this is difficult to do well, as this approach can often lead to generalisations which don't hold for all adherents, or which don't catch subtlties.

I don't know what to think about faith schools. I went to one, and I did end up with some odd assumptions that took a while to shift. On the one hand, setting up a school with a religious ethos seems like a fundamental part of freedom of religion, but on the other hand it encourages a narrow world view and an ignorance of others. In some areas, it would effectively lead to segregation.

I think that religious organisations should be welcome to set up 'Sunday Schools' or the non-Christian equivilant, but I'm coming towards the view that faith schools are a bad thing.

There is really no point children studying religion at school, or 'atheism'. They get vile atheistic values poked up their noses all day, and every day, by the likes of media people, pop/film stars, and teachers. There is no point bothering to teach that any more.

As for mere religion, it should be banned and the gospel of Christ taught properly. Pagan religions need to be banned, and the country returned to a nominally Christian one.

It is interesting to note as well that there is no such thing as atheism. There are no such people as 'a-pinko's'; people who do not believe in pink elephants, simply because there are none. Atheists are a misnoma, they should be honest and call themselves Antichrists, or, as the Bible calls them, 'children of the devil' Just like all who do not know Christ Himself, and indulge in religions like atheism etc. There is NO point being an atheist if God does not exist. They only exist to attack those who know God, like I do, and all (real) Christians do.

It would be good to see the land returned to decent standards and God's way taught in schools. There would be imprisonment for adulterers, and other film/pop star sorts, and execution for murderers; not punishment for tax payers who have to pay for them to be kept in prison for the rest of their lives.

School children would be taught that sex is for marriage, and anyone who engages in sex outside marriage would be forced to marry the person they had sex with, and divorce would not be allowed, ever.

All pie in the sky, of course, until Christ return.............

Justin

*cuckoo, cuckoo*

Weird. Justin's post is so close to satire I'm not sure whether to clap or cry.

I should know better than to feed the troll ('Feedth ye not the troll, for it is pointless in my sight' First Book of Fisch, verses 34)

However....

Justin, you want to execute murderers, lock up film stars, force people into marriage against their will, and not allow divorce under any circumstances. You want to prohibit all other religious and spiritual views - you don't say what the punishment for this would be, but I think we can guess.

Just one question - ever considered joining the Taliban? I'm sure you'd fit in....

Reading again, I think it's got to be satire, but it's pretty good stuff. Encore!

Take a look at his PS. He really means this.

Otto,

I did not say any such thing, I only mentioned that that would be God's way. It is NOT the function of the church of the Lord Jesus Christ to impose God's ways on the wicked. They are going to burn anyway, so there really is no point. New birth is the only way that God's chosen ones can live His way, and those who have never been born again cannot.

Justin,

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Christ doesn't exist for some people just the same way pink elephants don't exist for you. So if you don't go around calling people anti-pinkos then antichrist also makes no sense.

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I've always wondered why people without personal gods have to be 'a-anything' since obviously the concept of gods does not exist for them and so why do their beliefs have to be compared with theist ones in the first place?


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Note to Justin and Member.

Please don't turn this thread into a Justin/Member flame-throwing contest. Thank you.


az

JimBob,

No, not satire.

Justin

perhaps atheist is what they were labled rather than chose to be called, and it is now accepted taht to differentiate between those that belive in a god though there relgions and those that don't they are now atheists ....

Reddyfreddy,

Oh, he means it. And as I just posted, he will take over this thread if people continue to respond to him or take anything he says seriously. Trust me, arguing with him is a no-win situation because he doesn't in fact argue. Just spews out crazy nasty crap (the same stuff ALL THE TIME) and tries to insult as many people as possible. Not worth it. Why do you think he's on pre-mod?

Anyhow, let's carry on and not feed the troll.

az

*cough* not even going to attempt to respond to the troll *cough*

I always describe myself as an atheist even though as has been stated this isn't the best choice of word, so my question is then what should people who don't believe in god/gods etc be called!

Careful now

Agreed. Now, where were we?

ReddyFreddy,

Almighty God hates two things above straightforward sin, one of which is hypocrisy. I am sure that you understand that a servant of God would not engage in it. I mean what I say.

Justin