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Hoovooloo Started conversation Sep 12, 2003
OK, so the Palestinian Prime Minister resigned last week. Every single report I heard about the guy on the radio referred to him as "Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen." (I may have spelled these wrong, I've never seen them written down)
What is this about? You don't hear about the British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, also known as Derek Francis, do you?
An now he's apparently being replaced by another guy who's "also known as" something else. Is there some cultural reason why these guys appear to have two completely different names, one of which always seems to begin with "Abu"?
H.
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F F Churchton Posted Sep 12, 2003
Well Ant does'nt seem to to be on the hitlist of various Isreali assassins!!!
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Geggs Posted Sep 12, 2003
Well, yes. But if they know he has two names its not really much protection is it?
Geggs
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Researcher U197087 Posted Sep 12, 2003
Apparently in Muslim naming tradition, Abu indicates 'father of' so evidently it means 'Mazen's Dad'. Poor Mazen. It's enough having a parent like that without the inevitable 'Who's your daddy?' comments presented on the international political arena.
Off to name my first born Desouffle, and think of some others.
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kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 Posted Sep 12, 2003
Am glad I didn't post something about 'Leon' earlier...
*hoping someone actually shows up who can answer the question in post 1 a bit more thoroughly as I've been wondering this myself*
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Martin Harper Posted Sep 12, 2003
I was wondering about this myself. Is it to confuse Israeli assasination attempts? Maybe the Palestinian voting system elects people based on alphabetical order? Perhaps they're trying to impress George "also known as Dubya" Bush?
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Parathanatos Posted Sep 13, 2003
I once read a biography of Yassir Arafat which began by citing his name in full. This took up about a line and a half of print, and didn't include the name 'Yassir', which he adopted as a nickname. (I can't remember why).
PS I think 'bin' means 'from'.
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The Groob Posted Sep 17, 2003
In my dictionary (and it's a BIG dictionary, not a piddly little pocket one) it says of Paul Gascoigne : known as 'Gazza'.
Research shows that names given to us can influence our eventual personality. Somebody with a 'nerdy' name (and I wont give examples incase anyone here has that name)
may strive to make more of themselves to compensate for their name. Of course, nerdy parents probably give their kids nerdy names, so it may be more nature than nurture.
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The Groob Posted Sep 17, 2003
In my dictionary (and it's a BIG dictionary, not a piddly little pocket one) it says of Paul Gascoigne : known as 'Gazza'.
Research shows that names given to us can influence our eventual personality. Somebody with a 'nerdy' name (and I wont give examples incase anyone here has that name)
may strive to make more of themselves to compensate for their name. Of course, nerdy parents probably give their kids nerdy names, so it may be more nature than nurture.
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the third man(temporary armistice)n strike) Posted Sep 17, 2003
Joseph Jugoshevelli changed his name to Stalin which means "man of steel". To the Tsarist authorities he was always Joseph Jugoshevelli aka Stalin.
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A Super Furry Animal Posted Sep 17, 2003
And not forgetting Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov.
Nor Duane Dibley.
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The Groob Posted Sep 17, 2003
I was on a bus with my mates and a girl got on who looked exactly the same as Louise Woodward - the baby trial girl. It couldn't have been LW because she was in the states at the time. We all laughed and the girl was getting very stroppy (that must have happened a lot).
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the third man(temporary armistice)n strike) Posted Sep 17, 2003
On the aka theme, do you think that people with the same name as a mass murderer changed their name, so for example, if your real name was Myra Hindley would you become Jane Smith aka Myra Hindley?
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badger party tony party green party Posted Sep 17, 2003
In bengali tradition the family name comes first and the christian(sic) name comes second eg. Abdul Hannan or Hanif Mohammed two people everyone had got used to calling Abbey and Hanif suddenly and confusingly became Hnannan and Mohammed in the class register when we got to secondary school.
Also catholics get to have a different confirmation name. Do nuns use that name when they marry jesus or do they get yet another name?
I blame Jesus actually, he went round giving people extra names willy nilly. Changes the name of a religion and names it after himself. Show-off.
He started the whole trend. The Wako cult was started by a man who had changed his name to David Koresh , then started going around calling himself jesus, But as Bill Hicks said who's going to follow a messiah called Vernon?
The researcher formerly known as badger.
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Kerr_Avon - hunting stray apostrophes and gutting poorly parsed sentences Posted Sep 17, 2003
Certain African traditions have boys taking a new name when they turn 13, and "become a man", passing rites of passge and so forth. It could be the same in Middle Eastern traditions.
My family gave me two forenames, Heather and Elizabeth- when I was about 13 my parents asked me which I prefered. I suppose it's kind of the same- showing you're 'adult' and therefore allowed to chose what you'd like people to call you.
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