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If you could burn one film...
BobTheFarmer Posted Jan 16, 2003
*Thinks of his good friends from Knowle West who he skated with for years*
Hmmm, council estate white trash(Smackland pretty much equalling inner city for sh*teness). Check
Nothing better than to f**k. Check
Drink. Check
Do drugs. Check
and yet no need to be violent and a little s**t like them. If they've got so little to do why dont they go skate more...
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Chronicargonaut Posted Jan 16, 2003
U Turn might be a stunner of a film, but since then, J-Lo must have forgotten all her acting skills.
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Saturnine Posted Jan 16, 2003
Bob - again. It's still a different culture. It's not set in Britain, or written about Britian, it's about inner city AMERICAN kids...completely different life. Different influences. Different country. The state isn't so much of a crutch in the US. Think about it. And...um...if you take away the skateboards, it is pretty much South Bristol anyway. It had very little about skating in the film. Stop being
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Saturnine Posted Jan 16, 2003
But, didn't you say she couldn't act?? She *can*...it's just she got sucked in by the mainstream. Happens to a lot of them...
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RMF Art Vandelay: Missing- Presumed Fed[Hero], Join DISF at A925391! Posted Jan 16, 2003
I would have to burn the Movie "She's all that"
I despise it when dirctors make High schools look and at like Public Universities.
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GreyDesk Posted Jan 16, 2003
I'm with Saturnine on the Kids assessment and verdict
So, it is unremittingly dark and depressing in its storyline. But as a way of portraying a story from both a script and cinematographic standpoint it is truly ground breaking. There are no rose tinted spectacles and no punches pulled in that film.
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BobTheFarmer Posted Jan 16, 2003
'And...um...if you take away the skateboards, it is pretty much South Bristol anyway'
Sorry, doesnt that prove my point?
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Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like Posted Jan 16, 2003
I have to say I had successfully eradicated the two hours of my life that I spent watching Kids.
Without doubt the most dreary, pointless, artless mindnumbingly tedious piece of nonsense ever committed to film. A complete and utter waste of developing chemicals.
Into the fire with it, and with Larry Clarke for measure.
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BobTheFarmer Posted Jan 16, 2003
Sat I think you underestimate the people I know. Council estate deprived kids, one lived in a house with no carpets and minimal furniture, another had two charges of breaking and entering by the time he was 14. Yes, nothing to do except f*ck, drink and take drugs, and do crime yes. But not be a little sh*t. Skateing for many people is a way out of circumstance, a way to go and be your own person, not just seen as that skaggy Knowle West kid...
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Ythika the purple giraffe - Minister for Unusual Musical Instruments Posted Jan 16, 2003
Intersting that you are fighting so hard over one movie. It's like you really are going to burn it.
But what I really wanted to say was:
Saturnine, have you seen Gallipoli with Mel Gibson? A fairly old Australian movie. It's a long time since I've seen it but I do recollect it being very different to Mel's other stuff. So can we make an exception for it.
The film I want to burn is one with Corbin Bernsen, Lou Diamond Phillips and a whole lot of other medium sized names. Can't remember the name but they robbed a bank and everything went wrong and they hid out in the backwoods and then I turned it off. I rarely turn off movies just like I nearly always finish reading a book if I start it. A very odd compulsion of mine that I can't really explain. I also like bad television as it makes me laugh quietly inside. This all adds up to the movie being really, really bad.
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Researcher U197087 Posted Jan 16, 2003
I thought she was truly incandescent in Out Of Sight - but she's been stuffed into some real turkeys of late. "Enough" is apparently not only stultifyingly bad cinema, but quite irresponsible too.
Never mind the fact that she's determined to convince us she's still Jenny From The Block, whose Love Don't Cost A Thing; though her arse is insured for $300 million.
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Swiv (decrepit postgrad) Posted Jan 16, 2003
*chuckles*
oh J-Lo can act, given the right director to force her to - say Soderbergh or Stone. Without that she's over indulgent and generally awful.
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Rt. Rev. Lesley Gentle Posted Jan 16, 2003
Please for the loev of Christ could somebodey destroy the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Like Star Wars before that it is the most incredibly overrated and overhyped film the world has ever seen.
Reasonably acted and pretty to look at, it is as dull and shallow as the books it is based upon.
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Wulfric Posted Jan 16, 2003
I thought "Red Sonia" was dire. But then I don't like most swords & sorcery films.
I thought "Citizen Kane" was grossly overhyped. It's alright and I may not want to burn it but I didn't think it was that good.
The "Karate Kid" series was utter rubbish.
"Scary Movie" was a huge disappointment - sub-standard "Airplane" jokes - the "Carry on" films were better than that and I'm not a huge fan of them either!
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DoctorGonzo Posted Jan 16, 2003
"I thought "Citizen Kane" was grossly overhyped. It's alright and I may not want to burn it but I didn't think it was that good."
As did I, the first time I saw it. But it gets better, the more you see it. They did proper dialogue back in them days, too.
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Wulfric Posted Jan 16, 2003
True, I agree that more thought and attention appears to have been put into dialogue in those days. Perhaps it does get better with each viewing.
Once I saw "The Third Man" then "Citizen Kane" paled in comparison (to me that is). I guess it's all down to personal taste!
As I said, I wouldn't burn it but I'm really not sure what all the hype about it is all about.
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Saturnine Posted Jan 16, 2003
Bob - I meant to eradicate that sentence. It completely contradicted my point. And I think you grossly misunderstand the s**t that I come from. I've definitely seen and lived in the same situations that you talked about, if not more. Just because I don't go on about it, doesn't mean to say I don't come from it, or know what you are talking about. I come from the lowest of the low...a family riddled with abuse, and incest and worse. I've lived in Easton, Withywood, Shirehampton - all s**t area's back in the mid-nineties, riddled with drugs. I've lived in a social services hostel, where the room on the left was inhabited by two junkies (one who beat the manager into a bloody pulp one night), the one across the hall was a guy who had a stash of knuckledusters, guns and coke...upstairs was an active prostitute who worked in her room (as well as nicked all the milk) and had kids...downstairs was a bunch of Somalian refugees and a care-in-the-community guy.
Please don't tell me I don't know what it is about to need to escape. That hostel was better than life at home, but it was like dumping the whole of Bristol's s**t in your own house.
Ok!
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Saturnine Posted Jan 16, 2003
I've never seen Citizen Kane...I do know one h2g2 researcher that sings it's praises though. Something about breaking cinema boundaries or something. Can't really get the motivation to watch it.
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Dogster Posted Jan 16, 2003
If you didn't particularly like Citizen Kane (I didn't), then you could try watching A Touch of Evil. It's another Orson Welles, but much better. (And it has Charlton Heston in it which adds to the fun.)
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- 162: Chronicargonaut (Jan 16, 2003)
- 163: Saturnine (Jan 16, 2003)
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- 165: RMF Art Vandelay: Missing- Presumed Fed[Hero], Join DISF at A925391! (Jan 16, 2003)
- 166: GreyDesk (Jan 16, 2003)
- 167: BobTheFarmer (Jan 16, 2003)
- 168: Blues Shark - For people who like this sort of thing, then this is just the sort of thing they'll like (Jan 16, 2003)
- 169: BobTheFarmer (Jan 16, 2003)
- 170: Ythika the purple giraffe - Minister for Unusual Musical Instruments (Jan 16, 2003)
- 171: Researcher U197087 (Jan 16, 2003)
- 172: Researcher U197087 (Jan 16, 2003)
- 173: Swiv (decrepit postgrad) (Jan 16, 2003)
- 174: Rt. Rev. Lesley Gentle (Jan 16, 2003)
- 175: Wulfric (Jan 16, 2003)
- 176: DoctorGonzo (Jan 16, 2003)
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