A Conversation for Ask h2g2

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Post 1

BrentL

Can anyone confirm this story, which I heard some years ago, and about whose truth I have often wondered?

When engineers at the Telex Corporation were designing the earliest teletype machines, the economics of their design left room for only one version of the alphabet: they had to choose between upper-case and lower-case.

So they did some research on whether it was easier to read all-lower-case or all-upper-case text; and (as one might expect) they discovered that all lower case was significantly easier to read.

They took the results to their CEO, who read the report, and, when he had finished, said this:

"Your report, as far as it goes, is good, but you have forgotten something very important: if we make a machine that can only transmit lower-case characters, people will be unable to write the name of the Deity correctly. So you will use upper-case."

As a result, even today, there are people who have to SHOUT at their computers.


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Post 2

Gnomon - time to move on

this sounds like an urban legend to me.

i think it is more likely that the original designers could not contemplate entire sentences in lower case, because without the initial capital they just looked wrong. ON THE OTHER HAND, A SENTENCE ENTIRELY IN CAPITALS LOOKS OK IF YOU DON'T THINK OF IT AS SHOUTING.


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Post 3

Dancer (put your advert here)

though i know a lot of people who only use lowercase (like drew - from [Details removed by moderator]) but not too meny people who use only uppercase.

smiley - hsif
Dancer (please don't send e-mails to the address mentioned above)


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Post 4

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Among the earliest teletype machines were those that linked bews agancies like Reuters and Canadian Press to newspapers and radio stations. Yup, long before television!
I grew up in radio stations. All my earliest memories have these clunking tele-typewriters clattering away endlessly in the background bringing news to the newsroom from around the world.

They used only full caps because it was easier for announcers to read.
Copy (the scripts announcers read from), including all the local copy generated on in-house typewriters by news people and ad writers, was always written in full caps to match the larger, easier to read, text coming on the teletype machinery. Notes, asides and instructions (including pronunciation guides) and other material 'not for air' would be written in the usual upper and lower case way. (And separated by parentheses.)

The format for Dramatic scripts for Radio also put the spoken dialogue in Upper Case and all stage directions (not to be spoken) were written in regular upper/lower forms. Until recently, even movie and tv drama scripts called for the same format where the 'spoken' bits are written in full caps. (But word-processing has been changing this protocol.)

So whenever I see full caps I don't hear 'shouting' I just reflexively read it out loud, but not shouting loud, just radio announcer loud and clear.
smiley - peacedove
jwf - always glad to stroll down Memory Lane.


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Post 5

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

LOL! I swear to god that 'bews agancies' was not there when I previewed that post. I meant, of course, news agencies.

jwf


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Post 6

Dancer (put your advert here)

smiley - cool

smiley - hsif
Dancer


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Post 7

Beth

AT LAST! sOMEONE I CAN SHOUT AT WITHOUT CAUSING OFFENCE!


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Post 8

Beth

What happened to my smiley - peacedove ?


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Post 9

Beth

Apparently they smiley - peacedovesmiley - peacedove don't like to be shouted at !?

Sorry.


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Post 10

Dancer (put your advert here)

smiley - smiley

smilies are case sensitive.

smiley - hsif
Dancer(and sensitive beings don't like to be shouted at smiley - winkeye)


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Post 11

Beth

OK got it - shout at ~jwf~ but not the smilies smiley - smiley .


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Post 12

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

Hey don't shout smiley - headhurts!


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Post 13

Xanatic

Well, can anyone then explain to me why it is only a lousy program like Lotus that had a function where you could mark some letters, and then determine if they should be upper or lower case. It is really useful when you have accidently hit the caps lock button, and not noticed it untill you've written half an essay.


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Post 14

Gnomon - time to move on

How could a mere computer program cope with the vagaries of English capitalisation? Could it manage e e cummings, James MacIntosh, 10 MWh of power, the rules about God and words quoted from other languages (Irish can start a word with bhF)?


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Post 15

Xanatic

No what I meant was if you had written an entire sentence in caps, you could just mark it and then press a button and it would turn lower case. It wouldn't have names in big and such, ot would all be lower case. But it was useful if you had accidently wirtten in caps.


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Post 16

Gnomon - time to move on

You'll just have to learn to look at the screen, not the keyboard, when you are typing.smiley - winkeye


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Post 17

Orcus

[Details removed by moderator] smiley - grr

Not seen that one before. What's all that about then?


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Post 18

~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum

*glad to see a few folks are still 'listening' in spite of the noise*

PS: Even the sound effects (SFX) and music bits (MUS) are written in Caps in the TRADitional format of a radio drama script, as if they were CHARACTERS with something to say. Which, if you appreciate radio drama, they are.
I'd love to see a few pages of the original HHGTTG radio scripts!
smiley - peacedove


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Post 19

Wand'rin star

They were published in book form. I had them in Poland a dozen years ago , Took me ages to work out what SFX meant smiley - star


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Post 20

Dinsdale Piranha

mODERN VERSIONS OF MS WORD -

Will correct typing like the above on the fly.


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