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You can call me TC Posted Mar 28, 2004
Sounds very feasible.
When the film first came out, I remember hearing an explanation for the "Full Nine Yards" which means sort of the same thing. But I've forgotten its origins. Anyone know?
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Mar 28, 2004
the whole nine yards is from the ww2 pilots. I think. The aeroplanes carried the machine gun ammo in a total of 9yards of ammo strips. If you emptied your guns you had given it the full nine yards, everything you had in other words.
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You can call me TC Posted Mar 28, 2004
And why should "courage" be taboo in the US? (Post 7741)
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You can call me TC Posted Mar 28, 2004
Thanks, Ictoan. Another military one. What a colourless language we would speak if WW2 hadn't happened.
On the other hand, maybe something else would have coloured our language.
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Teasswill Posted Mar 28, 2004
It's not that courage is taboo in the US, but spunk is an alternative word (OK in the US?) which often has different connotations in the UK.
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Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 Posted Mar 28, 2004
I think you said it well, but I'm not sure that we (UK) have any other connotations to spunk other than the rude one. I've now heard a few Americans use it in the British way and that would indicate a short trip to the scrap heap for that word to mean anything else. My experience that once a word has a sexual taint it eventually becomes unused in it's previous meaning.
E.g. If I said I were a gay man I'm not sure how many people would jump to the conclusion that I was saying I was happy.
You find fewer and fewer people using words which are full of innuendo in conversations which are innocent. My rule of thumb* is that could a teacher say it in a secondary school class without there being uproar.
"When I'm at home I like to watch TV and stroke my pussy." FAIL!
The test of time is whether they allow old films to keep these words in now they are joining the underclass. I do remember being startled when I heard a family film from America (from the 1940's I think) refer to a woman standing with her back to the fire as "warming her fanny".
*maximum thickness of stick you can beat your wife with
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Potholer Posted Mar 28, 2004
>> but I'm not sure that we (UK) have any other connotations to spunk other than the rude one
I'm sure we *used to* have. To my mind, the (non-sexual) usage implies a kind of inter-war (British) public school setting.
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Mar 28, 2004
>> Rule of thumb = maximum thickness of stick you can beat your wife with <<
This strange-but-true dictum of English common law, like so many British measurements, was originally based on Henry VIII's bodily dimensions.
He had a 12 inch foot and short thick limbs. His 'yard' arms were more than 3 inches short of a meter but his thumbs were mercilessly thick.
The law (which remains on the books in most English speaking countries) was later amended to mean the thumb of the accused beater. So if he whacked it with a hammer just before he appeared in court the swelling could guarantee an acquital.
~jwf~
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Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 Posted Mar 28, 2004
You could add Waugh, ware and wor (Geordie our) to your name but I'd advise not hitting your thumb with a hammer. It could hurt.
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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) Posted Mar 28, 2004
...and whore and hoar!
turvy
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turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) Posted Mar 28, 2004
...or even go the whole nine yards and use phwoarrh! (however it might be spelt?).
turvy
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You can call me TC Posted Mar 29, 2004
Sounds like it would be better to be kicked in the behind by Henry VIII than to have to shake his hands.
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Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 Posted Mar 29, 2004
Yard arm? Was he related to an Orangutan?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 29, 2004
The yard wasn't the length of the king's arm, it was half the length between his fingertips when his arms were outstretched.
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Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 Posted Mar 29, 2004
But he might have been related to a short armed Orangutan as well.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 29, 2004
That would explain why Queen Elizabeth of England had red hair, before it all fell out.
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You can call me TC Posted Mar 29, 2004
But seriously, were the foot, yard, etc, only defined in Henry VIII's day? Were there no set standards any earlier?
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Mar 29, 2004
Inch, foot and yard were all in use in England as units of measure before the Norman Conquest.
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- 7762: IctoanAWEWawi (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7763: You can call me TC (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7764: You can call me TC (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7765: Teasswill (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7766: Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7767: Potholer (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7768: Noggin the Nog (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7769: ~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7770: Vestboy II not playing the Telegram Game at U726319 (Mar 28, 2004)
- 7771: turvy (Fetch me my trousers Geoffrey...) (Mar 28, 2004)
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