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Woven words but perhaps a little threadbare
Andy Posted Dec 31, 2001
Wouldn't mingle be an antonym of mangle (and hence be related). A mangle is also an early- and mid-20th century device for wringing out clothes, which leads to an explanation of the word 'wrought'. I thought this might have been brought into the English language in the same fashion as bring/brought, think/thought etc. However, Steven Pinker suggests it stems from the word work (in its original German). Any thoughts?
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Livzy Posted Jan 3, 2002
I think its from the ancient saxon word "spoodulikke" which was then adopted many centuries later by a third rate "slow" food chain charging exorbitant prices for a shrivelled up Kind Edward and a few strands of last weeks rancid coleslaw.
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Is mise Duncan Posted Jan 3, 2002
Having done some digging around (pun intended) I have found that it is from the Danish "spyd" meaning spear.
This gave rise to the name of a popular digging implement and also "to spud" being to weed...spud therefore is from the method of harvesting potatoes that existed before rotivators and riddles.
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kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 Posted Jan 3, 2002
So why do my folks call a hole in one's sock a spud? Has anyone else heard this or is it just my family?
k
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~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 4, 2002
Isn't spud the past tense of spade?
IE:
I am going to spade the garden.
I have spuds. But no coleslaw.
jwf
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plaguesville Posted Jan 4, 2002
bbk,
Spud was commonly used (but I know not why) in NW England for holes in socks (not counting the one provided for inserting your foot) but I've not heard it used for years; indicating that:
socks are now harder wearing, or
people no longer admit to having holey socks, or
affluence allows socks to be discarded when they become threadbare, or
(as in my case) the washing machine chews them to bits while they are (otherwise) still seviceable.
Not much help but thanks for the reminder.
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plaguesville Posted Jan 4, 2002
Has anyone else pondered the word "bedraggled"?
As in be-draggled possibly looking tousled after having been dragged or bed-raggled possibly looking tousled when emerging from slumber.
Haven't bothered to investigate, Life should still hold some mysteries.
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plaguesville Posted Jan 4, 2002
"Spade" that was what was done to one of our cats; and
wasn't "Cole's Law" a rather pathetic TV heart-throb detective series in the 60s or 70s?
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Munchkin Posted Jan 4, 2002
What, your cat dressed in a trenchcoat and hat and called itself Sam? What a funny animal.
As to bedraggled, if you are bejewelled you are covered in jewels so, if you are bedraggled you must be covered in draggles, presumably a lesser cousin to the dragon. Sounds rather unpleasent really.
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alji's Posted Jan 4, 2002
Bedraggled is about getting wet - Be + Draggle.
Draggle; to make wet and dirty by dragging through the mud, wet grass etc.
Drabble; to make wet and soiled by draggling.
Dribble; a weak, unsteady stream; a trickle. A drizzling shower; a falling or leaking in drops.
Drizzle; To rain slightly in very small drops.
Mizzle; To rain in fine, mistlike droplets; drizzle.
Frazzle; a state of extreme exhaustion; "he was worn to a frazzle"; wear away by rubbing
So could we have "She looked befrazzled!" or "I feel absolutely befrazzled!".
Alji
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Kaeori Posted Jan 4, 2002
FmL ©Ln bedraggled, I can tell you.
My American compatriots borrowed the word spud. It was adopted By the US military, who had always been impressed by the historical use of potatoes as weapons. Easy to throw by hand, or launch as a projectile, some believe they were the inspiration behind hand grenades. More recently, though, they gained immortality (and, subsequently, notoriety, thanks to Saddam), with the introduction of Spud Missiles. Of course, the American spelling and pronunciation is just slightly different.
But before you scoff, at least we can rhyme potato with tomato!
Oh, it's so nice to be back!
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Potholer Posted Jan 4, 2002
What about befuddled or bewildered?
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a girl called Ben Posted Jan 4, 2002
The prefix be- usually turns up when an action has befallen you. A ship is becalmed, you are benighted when night comes down while you are still outside, and so on. But with a number of be-words, like befuddled and bewildered, and indeed bedraggled, the verbs they have been formed from have become obsolete.
Be-n
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Kaeori Posted Jan 4, 2002
What?
I typed: "I've been bedraggled, I can tell you." I previewed my posting and checked it carefully. How could that have changed to the meaningless typing? Has something happened to h2g2 since I went away?
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Munchkin Posted Jan 4, 2002
Possibly you have been be-new_servered. I haven't noticed many problems with them though.
You've been draggled
Spiff Posted Jan 4, 2002
Or has some kind of draggle befallen you? I'm not quite sure, but who can doubt the profound truth of it?
Seeya
Spiff
You've been draggled
~ jwf ~ scribblo ergo sum Posted Jan 4, 2002
Yo K!
I think your combo of " and ' causes it to do some weird GDML thing. I recently typed up a LINK with an ' in the attribute.
Something like "John's Hompepage".
The link worked, it took you where it was supposed to but the original paragraph would disappear completely if you tried to hit the back button to return to the entry. The rest of the entry was intact, but the entire paragraph with the link would delete itself.
jwf (bemoaning)
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Woven words but perhaps a little threadbare
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- 3487: kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013 (Jan 3, 2002)
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